[Python-checkins] r62509 - peps/trunk/pep-3108.txt

brett.cannon python-checkins at python.org
Sat Apr 26 06:05:53 CEST 2008


Author: brett.cannon
Date: Sat Apr 26 06:05:53 2008
New Revision: 62509

Log:
Make some changes at Guido's suggestion.


Modified:
   peps/trunk/pep-3108.txt

Modified: peps/trunk/pep-3108.txt
==============================================================================
--- peps/trunk/pep-3108.txt	(original)
+++ peps/trunk/pep-3108.txt	Sat Apr 26 06:05:53 2008
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 Content-Type: text/x-rst
 Created: 01-Jan-2007
 Python-Version: 3.0
-Post-History: 
+Post-History:
 
 
 Abstract
@@ -55,14 +55,12 @@
 #. Remove the module.
 #. Remove the tests.
 #. Edit ``Modules/Setup.dist`` and ``setup.py`` if needed.
-#. Change all references to the removed module in the standard
-   library.
-#. Remove the docs.
-#. Delete the reference to the removed docs in ``Doc/Makefile.deps``
-   and ``Doc/lib/lib.tex``.
-#. If possible, build the docs. (cd Doc ; make)
-#. Run the regression test suite; watch out for tests that are skipped
-   because an import failed for the removed module.
+#. Change all imports of the removed module in the standard
+   library to the new name (if applicable).
+#. Remove the docs (if applicable).
+#. Run the regression test suite (using ``-uall``); watch out for
+   tests that are skipped because an import failed for the removed
+   module.
 
 If a deprecation warning is added to 2.6, it would be better to make
 all the changes to 2.6, merge the changes into the 3k branch, then
@@ -85,8 +83,9 @@
 ---------------------
 
 PEP 4 lists all modules that have been deprecated in the stdlib
-[#pep-0004]_.  All modules listed in the PEP at the time of the first
-alpha release of Python 3.0 will be removed.
+(including motivation as to why) [#pep-0004]_.  All modules listed
+in the PEP at the time of the first alpha release of Python 3.0 will
+be removed.
 
 The entire contents of lib-old will also be removed.  These modules
 have already been removed from being imported but are kept in the
@@ -128,61 +127,65 @@
 would be better to no longer burden the Python development team with
 their maintenance.
 
+The module mentioned below are documented. All undocumented modules
+for the specified platforms will also be removed.
+
 * IRIX (which is no longer produced [#irix-retirement]_)
 
-  + AL/al [done]
+  + AL/al [done: 3.0]
 
     - Provides sound support on Indy and Indigo workstations.
     - Both workstations are no longer available.
     - Code has not been uniquely edited in three years.
 
-  + cd [done]
+  + cd [done: 3.0]
 
     - CD drive control for SGI systems.
     - SGI no longer sells machines with IRIX on them.
     - Code has not been uniquely edited in 14 years.
 
-  + cl [done]
+  + cl/CL [done: 3.0]
 
     - Compression library for SGI systems.
     - SGI no longer sells machines with IRIX on them.
     - Code has not been uniquely edited in 14 years.
 
-  + DEVICE/GL/gl/cgen/cgensuport [done]
+  + DEVICE/GL/gl/cgen/cgensuport [done: 3.0]
 
-    - OpenGL access.
+    - GL access, which is the predecessor to OpenGL.
     - Has not been edited in at least eight years.
     - Third-party libraries provide better support (PyOpenGL [#pyopengl]_).
 
-  + FL/fl/flp [done]
+  + FL/fl/flp [done: 3.0]
 
     - Wrapper for the FORMS library [#irix-forms]_
     - FORMS has not been edited in 12 years.
     - Library is not widely used.
     - First eight hits on Google are for Python docs for fl.
 
-  + fm [done]
+  + fm [done: 3.0]
 
     - Wrapper to the IRIS Font Manager library.
     - Only available on SGI machines which no longer come with IRIX.
 
-  + imgfile [done]
+  + imgfile [done: 3.0]
 
     - Wrapper for SGI libimage library for imglib image files
       (``.rgb`` files).
     - Python Imaging Library provdes read-only support [#pil]_.
     - Not uniquely edited in 13 years.
 
-  + jpeg [done]
+  + jpeg [done: 3.0]
 
     - Wrapper for JPEG (de)compressor.
     - Code not uniquely edited in nine years.
     - Third-party libraries provide better support
       (Python Imaging Library [#pil]_).
 
+
 * Solaris
 
-  + SUNAUDIODEV/sunaudiodev [done]
+  + SUNAUDIODEV/sunaudiodev [done: 3.0]
 
     - Access to the sound card on Sun machines.
     - Code not uniquely edited in over eight years.
@@ -195,7 +198,7 @@
 can be from how easy it is to implement the functionality from scratch
 or because the audience for the code is very small.
 
-* audiodev [done]
+* audiodev [done: 3.0]
 
   + Undocumented.
   + Not edited in five years.
@@ -215,13 +218,8 @@
   + Only useful with the 'sched' module.
   + Not thread-safe.
 
-* repr
-
-  + Controls output of the repr of objects.
-  + String slicing and string interpolation can do similar work.
-  + Used by pdb, but do not need to expose API.
 
-* stringold [done]
+* stringold [done: 3.0]
 
   + Function versions of the methods on string objects.
   + Obsolete since Python 1.6.
@@ -232,7 +230,7 @@
 
   + Undocumented.
 
-* toaiff [done, moved to Demo]
+* toaiff [done: 3.0, moved to Demo]
 
   + Undocumented.
   + Requires ``sox`` library to be installed on the system.
@@ -242,19 +240,19 @@
   + Easily handled by allowing the application specify its own
     module name, check for existence, and import if found.
 
-* new [done]
+* new [done: 3.0]
 
   + Just a rebinding of names from the 'types' module.
   + Can also call ``type`` built-in to get most types easily.
   + Docstring states the module is no longer useful as of revision
     27241 (2002-06-15).
 
-* pure [done]
+* pure [done: 3.0]
 
   + Written before Pure Atria was bought by Rational which was then
     bought by IBM (in other words, very old).
-    
-* test.testall [done]
+
+* test.testall [done: 3.0]
 
   + From the days before regrtest.
 
@@ -266,36 +264,37 @@
 or a widely distributed third-party library provides a better solution
 for what the module is meant for.
 
-* Bastion/rexec [done]
+* Bastion/rexec [done: 3.0]
 
   + Restricted execution / security.
   + Turned off in Python 2.3.
   + Modules deemed unsafe.
 
-* bsddb185 [done]
+* bsddb185 [done: 3.0]
 
   + Superceded by bsddb3
   + Not built by default.
   + Documentation specifies that the "module should never be used
     directly in new code".
 
-* commands [only getstatus(), does whole module go?]/popen2 [done]
+* commands
 
-  + subprocess module replaces them [#pep-0324]_.
+  + subprocess module replaces it [#pep-0324]_.
+  + Remove getstatus(), move rest to subprocess.
 
-* compiler (need to add AST -> bytecode mechanism) [done - removal]
+* compiler (need to add AST -> bytecode mechanism) [done: 3.0]
 
   + Having to maintain both the built-in compiler and the stdlib
     package is redundant [#ast-removal]_.
   + The AST created by the compiler is available [#ast]_.
   + Mechanism to compile from an AST needs to be added.
-  
+
 * dircache
 
   + Negligible use.
   + Easily replicated.
 
-* dl [done]
+* dl [done: 3.0]
 
   + ctypes provides better support for same functionality.
 
@@ -312,29 +311,37 @@
   + Undocumented.
   + For use with rexec which has been turned off since Python 2.3.
 
-* imageop [done]
+* imageop [done: 3.0]
 
   + Better support by third-party libraries
     (Python Imaging Library [#pil]_).
   + Unit tests relied on rgbimg and imgfile.
         - rgbimg was removed in Python 2.6.
-        - imgfile slated for removal in this PEP. [done]
-        
+        - imgfile slated for removal in this PEP. [done: 3.0]
+
 * linecache
 
   + Negligible use.
   + Easily replicated.
 
-* linuxaudiodev [done]
+* linuxaudiodev [done: 3.0]
 
   + Replaced by ossaudiodev.
 
+* mhlib
+
+  + Obsolete mailbox format.
+
+* popen2 [done: 3.0]
+
+  + subprocess module replaces them [#pep-0324]_.
+
 * sched
 
   + Replaced by threading.Timer.
 
 
-* smgllib
+* sgmllib
 
   + Does not fully parse SGML.
   + In the stdlib for support to htmllib which is slated for removal.
@@ -359,22 +366,22 @@
 
   + Guido has previously supported the deprecation
     [#thread-deprecation]_.
-    
+
 * urllib
 
   + Superceded by urllib2.
   + Functionality unique to urllib will be kept in the `url package`_.
 
-* UserDict [done]
+* UserDict [done: 3.0]
 
   + Not as useful since types can be a superclass.
   + Useful bits moved to the 'collections' module.
 
-* UserList/UserString [done]
+* UserList/UserString [done: 3.0]
 
   + Not useful since types can be a superclass.
-  
-  
+
+
 Mac-specific modules
 ////////////////////
 
@@ -550,7 +557,7 @@
   + Rename cProfile to _profile.
   + Semantic completeness of C implementation *not* verified.
 
-* StringIO/cStringIO [done]
+* StringIO/cStringIO [done: 3.0]
 
   + Add the class to the 'io' module.
 
@@ -566,9 +573,7 @@
 ============  ===============================
 Current Name  Replacement Name
 ============  ===============================
-bdb           _bdb
-markupbase    _markupbase [done]
-opcode        _opcode
+markupbase    _markupbase [done: 3.0]
 dummy_thread  _dummy_thread [#]_
 ============  ===============================
 
@@ -585,6 +590,7 @@
 =================  ===============================
 Current Name       Replacement Name
 =================  ===============================
+repr               reprlib
 test.test_support  test.support
 =================  ===============================
 
@@ -614,7 +620,8 @@
 
 
 .. [1] ``dbm.tools`` can combine ``anybdbm`` and ``whichdb`` since the public
-       API for both modules has no name conflict.
+       API for both modules has no name conflict and the two modules have
+       closely related usage.
 
 
 
@@ -674,11 +681,11 @@
 
 .. [4] ``tk.filedialog`` can safely combine ``FileDialog`` and
        ``tkFileDialog`` as there are no naming conflicts.
-       
+
 .. [5] ``tk.simpledialog`` can safely combine ``SimpleDialog`` and
        ``tkSimpleDialog`` have no naming conflicts.
-       
-       
+
+
 url package
 ///////////
 
@@ -718,10 +725,8 @@
 -------------------------
 
 For the removal of modules that are continuing to exist in the Python
-2.x series (i.e., not deprecated explicitly in the 2.x series), a
-proper warning will be set that is silenced by default;
-PendingDeprecationWarning initially, moving over to a Py3K-specific
-warning later if one comes into existence.
+2.x series (i.e., not deprecated explicitly in the 2.x series),
+``warnings.warn3k()`` will be used to issue a DeprecationWarning.
 
 
 Renaming of modules
@@ -729,7 +734,7 @@
 
 For modules that are renamed, stub modules will be created with the
 original names and be kept in a directory within the stdlib (e.g. like
-lib-old was once used for).  The need to keep the stub modules within
+how lib-old was once used).  The need to keep the stub modules within
 a directory is to prevent naming conflicts with case-insensitive
 filesystems in those cases where nothing but the case of the module
 is changing.
@@ -759,26 +764,16 @@
 and hides the C implementation.
 
 
-Removal of Tkinter
-------------------
-
-With so many other GUI options out there that are considered better
-than Tkinter, it might be best to remove Tkinter from the stdlib and
-make it an externally maintained package. That would also allow for
-Tkinter to more closely follow Tcl/Tk's release schedule instead of
-Python's.
-
-
 Rejected Ideas
 ==============
 
-Modules that were originally suggested for removal 
+Modules that were originally suggested for removal
 --------------------------------------------------
 
 * asynchat/asyncore
 
   + Josiah Carlson has said he will maintain the modules.
-  
+
 * audioop/sunau/aifc
 
    + Audio modules where the formats are still used.
@@ -808,6 +803,11 @@
   + Some hardware supports using telnet for configuration and
     querying.
 
+* Tkinter
+
+  + Would prevent IDLE from existing.
+  + No GUI toolkit would be available out of the box.
+
 
 Introducing a new top-level package
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