From barry at python.org  Tue Dec  2 21:31:58 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:31:58 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] Tomorrow's releases
Message-ID: <A55F56A2-6A2C-4578-ACCF-8D24D4DA985F@python.org>

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I believe we are on track for releasing Python 3.0 final and 2.6.1  
tomorrow.  There is just one release blocker for 3.0 left -- Guido  
needs to finish the What's New for 3.0.

This is bug 2306.

So that Martin can have something to work with when he wakes up  
tomorrow morning, I would like to tag and branch the tree some time  
today, Tuesday 02-Dec US/Eastern.  Therefore I am freezing both the  
2.6 and 3.0 trees, with special dispensation to Guido for the updated  
What's New.

Ping me on irc @ freenode #python-dev if you have anything else to  
check in to either tree before then.  As soon as I hear from Guido, or  
issue 2306 is closed, I'm branching 3.0 and tagging it for release.

Great work everyone, we're almost there!
- -Barry

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From barry at python.org  Wed Dec  3 18:27:54 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:27:54 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] Python 3.0 branches ready
Message-ID: <E0ABA0EA-A795-489A-A484-6B95FF13AF6D@python.org>

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I've created the tag for 3.0 final and will now be spinning the  
tarball.  I plan to make these available for you to sanity check  
before I make the announcement.  Of course, Martin will now be making  
the Windows binaries too, and we'll wait for those as well, so the  
release may not be announced until tomorrow.

Also note that the py3k branch is now open for Python 3.1!  Have fun  
and see you in 18 months.

I still plan on making a Python 2.6.1 release today as well and will  
send a follow up when that tag is ready for the binary builds.

- -Barry

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From barry at python.org  Wed Dec  3 18:29:52 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:29:52 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] Python 3.0 branches ready
In-Reply-To: <E0ABA0EA-A795-489A-A484-6B95FF13AF6D@python.org>
References: <E0ABA0EA-A795-489A-A484-6B95FF13AF6D@python.org>
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On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:

> I've created the tag for 3.0 final

Sorry, I had to retag it.  r67506 is the 3.0 tag.

- -Barry

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From solipsis at pitrou.net  Wed Dec  3 18:31:01 2008
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:31:01 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] Python 3.0 branches ready
In-Reply-To: <E0ABA0EA-A795-489A-A484-6B95FF13AF6D@python.org>
References: <E0ABA0EA-A795-489A-A484-6B95FF13AF6D@python.org>
Message-ID: <1228325461.17986.122.camel@localhost>

Le mercredi 03 d?cembre 2008 ? 12:27 -0500, Barry Warsaw a ?crit :
> Also note that the py3k branch is now open for Python 3.1!  Have fun  
> and see you in 18 months.

You're not disappearing for 18 months are you? :)




From guido at python.org  Wed Dec  3 18:39:23 2008
From: guido at python.org (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:39:23 -0800
Subject: [python-committers] Python 3.0 branches ready
In-Reply-To: <1228325461.17986.122.camel@localhost>
References: <E0ABA0EA-A795-489A-A484-6B95FF13AF6D@python.org>
	<1228325461.17986.122.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ca471dc20812030939s129188a2hf8eb40dd1c9c7c9b@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> Le mercredi 03 d?cembre 2008 ? 12:27 -0500, Barry Warsaw a ?crit :
>> Also note that the py3k branch is now open for Python 3.1!  Have fun
>> and see you in 18 months.
>
> You're not disappearing for 18 months are you? :)

Hm, I might actually consider doing that... :-)

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

From barry at python.org  Wed Dec  3 18:56:33 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:56:33 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] Python 3.0 branches ready
In-Reply-To: <1228325461.17986.122.camel@localhost>
References: <E0ABA0EA-A795-489A-A484-6B95FF13AF6D@python.org>
	<1228325461.17986.122.camel@localhost>
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On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:

> Le mercredi 03 d?cembre 2008 ? 12:27 -0500, Barry Warsaw a ?crit :
>> Also note that the py3k branch is now open for Python 3.1!  Have fun
>> and see you in 18 months.
>
> You're not disappearing for 18 months are you? :)

I hope not, but there's a black van with the letters PSU written on  
the side sitting in front of my hou

From barry at python.org  Wed Dec  3 21:14:27 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:14:27 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] 3.0 tarballs and binaries
Message-ID: <ABD968D6-1CF3-41C8-9FB3-0AD3A68E21AC@python.org>

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...are now available on dinsdale.  Please download and verify if  
possible.  I still need to update the web site and craft the  
announcement, but barring last minute snafus, it will go out tonight.

Please ping me immediate if you find any problems.

- -Barry

http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/

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From anthonybaxter at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 00:35:50 2008
From: anthonybaxter at gmail.com (Anthony Baxter)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:35:50 +1100
Subject: [python-committers] Python 3.0 branches ready
Message-ID: <e69d3ed20812031535n4f049febmfb795c96fe8952b5@mail.gmail.com>



Don't be silly, you don't really think the PSU would go after someone is a 
release manag

On Dec 4, 2008 4:56 AM, "Barry Warsaw" <barry at python.org> wrote:

On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le mercredi 03 d?cembre 
2008 ? 12:27 -0500, Ba...
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From barry at python.org  Thu Dec  4 03:03:54 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:03:54 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] release30-maint branch is thawed
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Now get cracking on Python 3.0.1 :)

Please consider release26-maint frozen now.  I'm going to tag the tree  
for Python 2.6.1.

- -Barry

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From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Dec  4 15:57:14 2008
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:57:14 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] release30-maint branch is thawed
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> Now get cracking on Python 3.0.1 :)

And there's a corresponding Mercurial repo at http://code.python.org/hg/

Antoine.



From barry at python.org  Fri Dec  5 07:06:12 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:06:12 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] release26-maint branch is thawed
Message-ID: <8FA24FC9-7216-4710-BC0A-BBC2A0484575@python.org>

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2.6.1 is out, thanks everybody!  All branches are now open for commits.

- -Barry

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From barry at python.org  Fri Dec  5 14:12:44 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:12:44 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
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=> python-committers

On Dec 5, 2008, at 3:21 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:

>> In the meantime, I'll make sure Georg is involved in point releases
>> moving forward.
>
> That's good. Thanks!

I think the way I'd like to handle this is through the python- 
committers mailing list.  I propose the following workflow:

* PEP 101 is followed up to making the release tag
* Send a message to p-c indicating the tag revision (probably a  
forward of the commit msg)
* Before a) pushing the new web content, b) sending the announcment,  
wait for the "Go" signal from the following experts: WE, DE (we can  
amend that list in the future).  The "Go" signal is also sent to p-c.

How does that sounds?  PEP 101 kinda sorta says this but if you're  
okay with this workflow, I'll make it explicit.

- -Barry

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From g.brandl at gmx.net  Fri Dec  5 15:40:00 2008
From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl)
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:40:00 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <389689E1-836E-4D50-9120-F40E3E747D21@python.org>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>	<880dece00812031813t78ec560cy69dd3710fbd4c2a9@mail.gmail.com>	<46FC4EDF-A0A6-4310-A854-4CB5F7A791EE@python.org>	<85b5c3130812040142p9e5ba8cx616604d56add0c19@mail.gmail.com>	<4937B80D.9070309@gmail.com>	<gh8j4g$ol6$1@ger.gmane.org>	<gh8vh2$638$1@ger.gmane.org>	<4938660E.9080809@v.loewis.de>	<AF6A07DF-C986-4FDE-AE9A-7B679F78A76F@python.org>	<ghaoai$gh7$1@ger.gmane.org>
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Barry Warsaw schrieb:
> => python-committers
> 
> On Dec 5, 2008, at 3:21 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
> 
>>> In the meantime, I'll make sure Georg is involved in point releases
>>> moving forward.
> 
>> That's good. Thanks!
> 
> I think the way I'd like to handle this is through the python- 
> committers mailing list.  I propose the following workflow:
> 
> * PEP 101 is followed up to making the release tag
> * Send a message to p-c indicating the tag revision (probably a  
> forward of the commit msg)
> * Before a) pushing the new web content, b) sending the announcment,  
> wait for the "Go" signal from the following experts: WE, DE (we can  
> amend that list in the future).  The "Go" signal is also sent to p-c.
> 
> How does that sounds?  PEP 101 kinda sorta says this but if you're  
> okay with this workflow, I'll make it explicit.

+1.

Georg

-- 
Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less.
Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy
indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou
two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out.


From martin at v.loewis.de  Sat Dec  6 00:40:06 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:40:06 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <389689E1-836E-4D50-9120-F40E3E747D21@python.org>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>	<880dece00812031813t78ec560cy69dd3710fbd4c2a9@mail.gmail.com>	<46FC4EDF-A0A6-4310-A854-4CB5F7A791EE@python.org>	<85b5c3130812040142p9e5ba8cx616604d56add0c19@mail.gmail.com>	<4937B80D.9070309@gmail.com>	<gh8j4g$ol6$1@ger.gmane.org>	<gh8vh2$638$1@ger.gmane.org>	<4938660E.9080809@v.loewis.de>	<AF6A07DF-C986-4FDE-AE9A-7B679F78A76F@python.org>	<ghaoai$gh7$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<389689E1-836E-4D50-9120-F40E3E747D21@python.org>
Message-ID: <4939BBD6.2080304@v.loewis.de>

> How does that sounds?

Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular basis?

Specifically, who is working on binaries for 3.0 and 2.6.1? Ronald?
(the 2.6.1 release page claims that they are signed with Benjamin's
key, but no binary is even available. Before this gets fixed, I
think we need to agree on who is going to produce the binaries, and
using what schedule.)

Regards,
Martin

From brett at python.org  Sat Dec  6 00:52:49 2008
From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:52:49 -0800
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <4939BBD6.2080304@v.loewis.de>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>
	<85b5c3130812040142p9e5ba8cx616604d56add0c19@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 15:40, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> How does that sounds?
>
> Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular basis?
>
> Specifically, who is working on binaries for 3.0 and 2.6.1? Ronald?
> (the 2.6.1 release page claims that they are signed with Benjamin's
> key, but no binary is even available. Before this gets fixed, I
> think we need to agree on who is going to produce the binaries, and
> using what schedule.)
>

What we probably should do is outline the steps in PEP 101 for
building the various binaries. For instance I could cut OS X releases
but I just don't know the exact steps are.

-Brett

From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Sat Dec  6 08:35:37 2008
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:35:37 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <bbaeab100812051552q16c4a613q9b15ef964ce62640@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>
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On 6 Dec, 2008, at 0:52, Brett Cannon wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 15:40, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>  
> wrote:
>>> How does that sounds?
>>
>> Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular  
>> basis?
>>
>> Specifically, who is working on binaries for 3.0 and 2.6.1? Ronald?
>> (the 2.6.1 release page claims that they are signed with Benjamin's
>> key, but no binary is even available. Before this gets fixed, I
>> think we need to agree on who is going to produce the binaries, and
>> using what schedule.)
>>
>
> What we probably should do is outline the steps in PEP 101 for
> building the various binaries. For instance I could cut OS X releases
> but I just don't know the exact steps are.

For 2.5.x I used to following procedure.

Requirements:

* An Intel Mac running 10.4.x

* Have the latest version of XCode for Tiger systems installed

* Have Tcl/Tk for OSX installed
   (Needed to make it possible for people to use a newer Tcl/Tk with  
Tkinter and IDLE
    without rebuilding _tkinter themselves. The version of _tkinter  
that's installed
    by this procedure also works when Tcl/Tk is not installed on a  
user's machine).

* Make sure /opt/local and /sw do not exist, to avoid contaminating  
the build with  DarwinPorts/Fink bits

* Use the script in Mac/BuildScript to actually build the installer DMG
    This will download a number of components (such as sleepycat DB),  
builds all required software
     and assembles the installer.

I used to test the installer on a 10.3.9 PPC system, a 10.4 system and  
a 10.5 system.

Ronald

>
>
> -Brett
> _______________________________________________
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> python-committers at python.org
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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Sat Dec  6 08:28:57 2008
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:28:57 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
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On 6 Dec, 2008, at 0:40, Martin v. L?wis wrote:

>> How does that sounds?
>
> Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular  
> basis?

I haven't even looked seriously at 3.0 yet and therefore wouldn't be  
the rigth person to build OSX binaries at the moment.

>
>
> Specifically, who is working on binaries for 3.0 and 2.6.1? Ronald?

I'm not working on those. I can hopefully create 2.6.1 binaries on  
Sunday evening.

Ronald

>
> (the 2.6.1 release page claims that they are signed with Benjamin's
> key, but no binary is even available. Before this gets fixed, I
> think we need to agree on who is going to produce the binaries, and
> using what schedule.)
>
> Regards,
> Martin

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From barry at python.org  Sat Dec  6 16:04:11 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:04:11 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
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On Dec 5, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Martin v. L?wis wrote:

>> How does that sounds?
>
> Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular  
> basis?
>
> Specifically, who is working on binaries for 3.0 and 2.6.1? Ronald?
> (the 2.6.1 release page claims that they are signed with Benjamin's
> key, but no binary is even available. Before this gets fixed, I
> think we need to agree on who is going to produce the binaries, and
> using what schedule.)

If someone (Ronald?) wants to step up and be the official Mac Expert  
(as per PEP 101) that would be fine with me.  If not, then the Mac  
binaries can be backfilled after the release is announced.

- -Barry

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From barry at python.org  Sat Dec  6 16:04:57 2008
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:04:57 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
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On Dec 6, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:

> On 6 Dec, 2008, at 0:40, Martin v. L?wis wrote:
>
>>> How does that sounds?
>>
>> Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular  
>> basis?
>
> I haven't even looked seriously at 3.0 yet and therefore wouldn't be  
> the rigth person to build OSX binaries at the moment.

So I think for the time being at least then, I won't put an "all  
systems go" block on the ME in PEP 101.

- -Barry

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From brett at python.org  Sat Dec  6 23:26:11 2008
From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 14:26:11 -0800
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <C182541A-2011-449D-9C19-D8567FBB2597@mac.com>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>
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On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 23:35, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
>
> On 6 Dec, 2008, at 0:52, Brett Cannon wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 15:40, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How does that sounds?
>>>
>>> Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular
>>> basis?
>>>
>>> Specifically, who is working on binaries for 3.0 and 2.6.1? Ronald?
>>> (the 2.6.1 release page claims that they are signed with Benjamin's
>>> key, but no binary is even available. Before this gets fixed, I
>>> think we need to agree on who is going to produce the binaries, and
>>> using what schedule.)
>>>
>>
>> What we probably should do is outline the steps in PEP 101 for
>> building the various binaries. For instance I could cut OS X releases
>> but I just don't know the exact steps are.
>
> For 2.5.x I used to following procedure.
>
> Requirements:
>
> * An Intel Mac running 10.4.x
>

That requirement right there take me out for being able to to do the binary.

-Brett

From jnoller at gmail.com  Sat Dec  6 23:45:16 2008
From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:45:16 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <bbaeab100812061426o31818716nb625991c1df34f64@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>
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On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 23:35, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 6 Dec, 2008, at 0:52, Brett Cannon wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 15:40, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How does that sounds?
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good! Are we also going to produce OSX binaries on a regular
>>>> basis?
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, who is working on binaries for 3.0 and 2.6.1? Ronald?
>>>> (the 2.6.1 release page claims that they are signed with Benjamin's
>>>> key, but no binary is even available. Before this gets fixed, I
>>>> think we need to agree on who is going to produce the binaries, and
>>>> using what schedule.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> What we probably should do is outline the steps in PEP 101 for
>>> building the various binaries. For instance I could cut OS X releases
>>> but I just don't know the exact steps are.
>>
>> For 2.5.x I used to following procedure.
>>
>> Requirements:
>>
>> * An Intel Mac running 10.4.x
>>
>
> That requirement right there take me out for being able to to do the binary.
>
> -Brett

I could do binaries for 10.5 and forward. I've got a few macs at my disposal

From skip at pobox.com  Sun Dec  7 02:47:15 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:47:15 -0600
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <4222a8490812061445g71ebc894tf32d39b070cf1000@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>
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    Ronald> * An Intel Mac running 10.4.x

    Brett> That requirement right there take me out for being able to to do
    Brett> the binary.

    Jesse> I could do binaries for 10.5 and forward. I've got a few macs at
    Jesse> my disposal

I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?  Was it a G4 perhaps?

Skip

From martin at v.loewis.de  Sun Dec  7 03:01:57 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:01:57 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <18747.11043.257918.666960@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
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> I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?  

Yes, it's broken.

> Was it a G4 perhaps?

I've now turned it off, so I can't find out anymore.

Regards,
Martin

From jnoller at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 03:08:38 2008
From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:08:38 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
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On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:01 PM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?
>
> Yes, it's broken.
>
>> Was it a G4 perhaps?
>
> I've now turned it off, so I can't find out anymore.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>

My 10.5 buildbot should still be active at very least.

From skip at pobox.com  Sun Dec  7 03:18:21 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:18:21 -0600
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
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    Skip> I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?

    Martin> Yes, it's broken.

    Skip> Was it a G4 perhaps?

    Martin> I've now turned it off, so I can't find out anymore.

    Jesse> My 10.5 buildbot should still be active at very least.

I was thinking that maybe it could serve as a machine to build Mac
installers.

Skip


From jnoller at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 03:22:46 2008
From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:22:46 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <18747.12909.978746.855677@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
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On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:18 PM,  <skip at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>    Skip> I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?
>
>    Martin> Yes, it's broken.
>
>    Skip> Was it a G4 perhaps?
>
>    Martin> I've now turned it off, so I can't find out anymore.
>
>    Jesse> My 10.5 buildbot should still be active at very least.
>
> I was thinking that maybe it could serve as a machine to build Mac
> installers.
>
> Skip
>
>

I have no problem building them, but as I mentioned before, it's 10.5+
the build process itself is relatively painless due to
Mac/BuildScript/...

From musiccomposition at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 03:26:18 2008
From: musiccomposition at gmail.com (Benjamin Peterson)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:26:18 -0600
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <4222a8490812061822m4fb5fbc4ye26ff8aa98bc3d92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>
	<bbaeab100812051552q16c4a613q9b15ef964ce62640@mail.gmail.com>
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FWIW, I have a 2.6.1 installer here which I've tested on a few machines.

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:18 PM,  <skip at pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>    Skip> I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?
>>
>>    Martin> Yes, it's broken.
>>
>>    Skip> Was it a G4 perhaps?
>>
>>    Martin> I've now turned it off, so I can't find out anymore.
>>
>>    Jesse> My 10.5 buildbot should still be active at very least.
>>
>> I was thinking that maybe it could serve as a machine to build Mac
>> installers.
>>
>> Skip
>>
>>
>
> I have no problem building them, but as I mentioned before, it's 10.5+
> the build process itself is relatively painless due to
> Mac/BuildScript/...
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-- 
Cheers,
Benjamin Peterson
"There's nothing quite as beautiful as an oboe... except a chicken
stuck in a vacuum cleaner."

From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Sun Dec  7 09:22:43 2008
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:22:43 +0100
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
In-Reply-To: <18747.11043.257918.666960@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
References: <A45F9DC2-2114-4B81-9C69-37EAA3A356C9@python.org>
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On 7 Dec, 2008, at 2:47, skip at pobox.com wrote:

>    Ronald> * An Intel Mac running 10.4.x
>
>    Brett> That requirement right there take me out for being able to  
> to do
>    Brett> the binary.
>
>    Jesse> I could do binaries for 10.5 and forward. I've got a few  
> macs at
>    Jesse> my disposal
>
> I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?  Was it a G4  
> perhaps?

It should be possible to use my build script on a 10.5 box, I just  
haven't gotten
around to test that yet.

Ronald

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From jnoller at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 13:59:00 2008
From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 07:59:00 -0500
Subject: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final
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On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
>
> On 7 Dec, 2008, at 2:47, skip at pobox.com wrote:
>
>>   Ronald> * An Intel Mac running 10.4.x
>>
>>   Brett> That requirement right there take me out for being able to to do
>>   Brett> the binary.
>>
>>   Jesse> I could do binaries for 10.5 and forward. I've got a few macs at
>>   Jesse> my disposal
>>
>> I thought the PSF had a 10.4 XServe box.  Is it gone?  Was it a G4
>> perhaps?
>
> It should be possible to use my build script on a 10.5 box, I just haven't
> gotten
> around to test that yet.
>
> Ronald
>
>

It does work barring some issues w/ the doc downloading. I do however
need to do a universal build, so I need to reinstall some of the XCode
tools