[python-committers] Providing .tgz sources

Brett Cannon brett at python.org
Sun Dec 5 22:11:12 CET 2010


On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 13:06, "Martin v. Löwis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> Well, is it more popular because that is just what people are used to
>> downloading or the first download link on the web page? Or is it
>> because people fundamentally prefer tgz files over tar.bz2?
>
> These questions are difficult to answer with the download stats alone.
> If you really want to know, we should setup a poll...

I could if people care, but I don't anyone does.

>
>> Are there
>> actual platforms that can't handle tar.bz2 but can handle tgz?
>
> That, in turn, is easy to answer: yes, there are. Certain Solaris
> releases had gzip available (even though /usr/bin/tar wouldn't know
> how to invoke it), but no bzip2 utility.

If these are Solaris platforms we support then that's fine and we
should keep tgz files, but if these are platforms we no longer care
about then I say the lives of release managers should be simplified by
cutting tgz files.

>
>> I'm
>> willing to bet it's because of the download link order and has nothing
>> to do with actual preference (especially since we don't state file
>> size on the download page).
>
> Not sure what page you are looking at; on
>
> http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/
>
> we do.

I was actually looking at that page, but the size specifics are below
the download links and are only noticeable if you scroll far enough
down. I doubt I am the only person who has made that mistake.

-Brett

>
>> Personally I don't know why we have both tgz and tar.bz2 other than
>> tradition. I say trim it down to tar.bz2 for portability and move on
>> to using a ustar-based tar.xz to be cutting edge and minimize download
>> size overall while making it the first download option to make sure
>> people notice it. I'd also vote for listing the file size on the
>> download page, but that's just another step for release managers that
>> I don't want to burden them with.
>
> You would also need to specify what page you refer to as "the download
> page".
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>


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