[python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

Victor Stinner victor.stinner at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 11:35:16 CET 2014


Hi,

2013/12/4 Michael Foord <michael at voidspace.org.uk>:
> As with previous years we will be having a Language Summit at PyCon North America, in Montreal. The summit will be on Wednesday 9th April and running from approximately 10am to 4pm.

My talk "Track memory leaks in Python" was accepted, I will be present
at Montreal for Pycon US \o/

For the summit, I think that we must discuss the adoption of Python 3
and try to fix remaining issues to ease porting applications from
Python 2 to Python 3. Mercurial and Twisted are not ported yet, and
some developers consider Python 3 as a mistake. You must try to
understand why and fix remaining issues.

One concrete point is the "support .format for bytes" which was
requested by Mercurial ("for Mercurial this is the single biggest
impediment to even getting our testrunner working, much less starting
the porting process.") and Twisted ("Honestly, what Twisted is mostly
after is a way to write code that works both with Python 2 and Python
3.")
http://bugs.python.org/issue3982

A PEP was requested for this issue, I'm interested to help to write it
and implement it in Python 3.5.

A Python 2.8 version was also proposed to reduce differences between
Python 2 and 3, and so ease porting applications to Python 3. Related
discussion:

"About Python 3"
http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/

"Debating a "transitional" Python 2.8"
http://lwn.net/Articles/578532/
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This mailing list is not the right place to discuss all these points,
I propose to discuss them during the Language Summit. If you would
like to discuss these points right now, please open a discussion in
python-dev or python-ideas.

Victor


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