[python-committers] clinic churn after beta2

[Brett Cannon]

On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Gregory P. Smith <greg at krypto.org> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Eli Bendersky <eliben at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does it really make sense to introduce large amounts of code churn after
>> the release of 3.4 beta2? It started innocently enough, but now it seems
>> that the whole implementation is being reconsidered (Antoine's email to
>> pydev). This doesn't look like something we should be doing so late in the
>> release process.
>>
>
> I wouldn't call that a whole implementation being reconsidered. People are
> just bike shedding over which wall to paint first. The color has already
> been established.
>

Agreed.


>
> Besides, Larry is both the release manager for 3.4 and argument clinic
> proponent. If we need a beta3 instead of an rc1 next, that is up to him. :)
>

Exactly. It also helps that this is not meant to change semantics (beyond
better help() ATM) so unit tests + compiler checks should be enough to
catch any major issues that Argument Clinic might cause.


>
> I'm not weighing in on the pydev thread despite having opinions because it
> just doesn't matter to me in the end. I'd just be adding noise and am happy
> to accept anything so long as argument clinic does stay in for 3.4.
>
>
>> Are we really that much in need of convert-to-clinic *now*?
>>
>
> It'll never happen otherwise.
>

I see no reason not to get it done now. I would honestly say we should push
the release to see it finished so we don't end up with some C code
converted and not others. Might as well get all extension code to have
defined signatures than only some at this point.

-Brett


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