[python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

Brett Cannon brett at python.org
Sat Mar 5 15:52:08 EST 2016


On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 at 10:58 Georg Brandl <g.brandl at gmx.net> wrote:

> On 03/05/2016 01:07 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 at 15:07 R. David Murray <rdmurray at bitdance.com
> > <mailto:rdmurray at bitdance.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 21:31:44 +0000, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org
> >     <mailto:brett at python.org>> wrote:
> >     > The discussion about the Code of Conduct has sputtered out, so I'm
> going to
> >     > assume those who care to speak up have at this point. It seems to
> me that
> >     > the general agreement is that putting python-dev and
> bugs.python.org
> >     <http://bugs.python.org> under
> >     > the CoC might not solve any real issues we currently have, but it
> won't
> >     > hurt anything either (and both python-committers and python-ideas
> are
> >     > already covered). And since the CoC might make some people feel
> more
> >     > comfortable in participating, that means going ahead and flipping
> on the
> >     > CoC where we reasonably can.
> >
> >     I guess I have one more thing to say.
> >
> >     Thinking about this, I realized that in fact this emphasis on the
> CoC is
> >     making me feel less like contributing.  I doesn't feel like a large
> >     effect, but it is real[*].  Just thought you should know :)
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry if that's what this thread has caused for you, David, and it's
> > obviously not what I'm after.
> >
> > I guess I'm just worried about the health of this project. I'm doing
> what I can
> > through the migration to GitHub to make it easier for others to get
> involved
> > while making it easier for us to accept the work of others, but the
> maintenance
> > and health of this team worries me. For instance, if you look at the
> developer's
> > log you will notice we only gained 2 core devs for all of 2015 and the
> last one
> > was August 2015: https://docs.python.org/devguide/developers.html. 2013
> was the
> > next slowest year with 4, but most years are much closer to 10 than 0.
> We also
> > still have no female or minority members.
>
> Not sure how you determined the latter.  There are many kinds of
> minorities.
>
> Anyway, with the migration to Git it becomes much easier to spot and
> remind us
> of potential committers, as both author and committer info are retained in
> commits.  This makes a periodic report (by a bot, presumably) possible that
> lists those authors with the most commits, but without commit bit.
>

That's a great idea! Recorded in PEP 512:
https://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fad7b646ab06.
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