[python-committers] Requirements to get the "bug triage" permission?

[Ezio Melotti]

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Victor Stinner <victor.stinner at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2017-12-08 17:19 GMT+01:00 Ezio Melotti <ezio.melotti at gmail.com>:
>>> Aha. Maybe we need some tooling, like statistics on contributions to the
>>> bug tracker, just to detect earlier active "bug triagers"?
>>>
>>
>> This can be done (e.g. the famous highscores page we have been talking about).
>
> My opinion on such statistics is that they must not be public. I don't
> want to reward the highest number of contributions. As I wrote in the
> process documentation, what matters is the quality and kind of the
> contributions, and also the commitment.
>
> But a private tool, only accessible to core dev for example, would
> easy the work of identifying active contributors.
>

It doesn't necessarily have to be based solely on number of
contribution.  Twisted uses a formula that rewards different kind of
contributions differently.  In theory there could also be different
leaderboards based on number of commits, lines of code, PR submitted,
reviews done, PR/issues closed, etc.  I trust that if we ever get
around implementing this, the contributors won't abuse it, and to
prevent that we can simply add a line saying something like "The
number of contribution doesn't take into account the quality or the
complexity of the contributions.".
I don't think it should be private, as one of its main purposes is to
recognize the work of the contributors, not only by us, but also by
themselves and other contributors.

>
>> There are however other triagers that just go through the issues and
>> adjust fields or comment, even if they have no intention of working on
>> the issue itself.
>> While it's technically true that there might be people that want to
>> triage but not contribute code, most of them do contribute, and triage
>> while going through the issues.
>
> Hum, as Ned Deily wrote, some people don't want to become core
> developers and are fine to contribute as regular contributors. I
> should clarify this in the document.
>
> By the way, since the migration to Git and GitHub, contributing
> without being a core dev became simpler IMHO.
>
>
>>> My hope is that many contributors are potential core developers but were
>>> stuck somewhere, and failed to get the right documentation or mentor to
>>> unblock them.
>>>
>>
>> This is a good point, but indeed, how many are contributing with the
>> goal and hope of becoming core devs?  How many are contributing
>> because they like the project, and would be happy to become core devs?
>>  How many are just scratching a itch but otherwise have no desire to
>> contribute to other aspects of the project?
>> Finding an answer to these questions might help understanding where
>> are the problems that need to be addressed.
>
> Ow, these are tricky questions! Maybe a poll sent to contributors, or
> to python-dev, would help?
>
> Victor