[python-committers] An alternative governance model

Mariatta Wijaya mariatta.wijaya at gmail.com
Wed Jul 18 17:14:03 EDT 2018

Let's be clear that we're not yet at the stage where we can vote for
anything, let alone how to vote.

Barry made one proposal, that's all.

Last week someone suggested doing research of other governance models. We
should still do that before we even start voting on anything.


On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:04 PM Łukasz Langa <lukasz at langa.pl> wrote:

> > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Alex Martelli <aleax at google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Since 1179 (and with a few very minor exceptions in the centuries right
> after then -- none since 1612), the Catholic Church requires a
> super-majority of 2/3 to elect a new Pope. I don't see how the choice of a
> BDFL is so much more important to the Python community, than the choice of
> a Pope is to the Catholic Church; thus, requiring 90% rather than "just"
> 2/3 seems unwarranted.
> This is a good point. Moreover, I'm sure Monty Python-wise it's only
> fitting for us to base our rules on a papal conclave.
> If we do, then it looks like 2/3 it is. However, historically cardinal
> participation rates were really high so I'd like to keep the 90%
> participation rule there.
> I do find it a bit problematic that a papal conclave doesn't vote "yes/no"
> but rather just places names for a predefined position using predefined
> rules.
> > In fact, a 90% requirement gets dangerously close to a requirement for
> unanimity -- allowing any member of the Sejm to shout "Nie pozwalam!" and
> thus end the session and nullify every decision made in the session.
> Oh, you know how to hit close to home! However, there's a big difference
> between one vote vetoing the ruling and ten (as there's 100+ GitHub
> committers now IIRC).
> But yeah, if the Vatican is fine with two thirds, it sounds like we could,
> too. By the way, if we're already studying Polish parliamentary rules, 2/3
> agreement is needed to make constitution changes.
> - Ł
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