[python-committers] Proposal: an explicit, time-limited moratorium on finalizing any governance decisions

Antoine Pitrou antoine at python.org
Thu Jul 19 14:07:41 EDT 2018

Le 19/07/2018 à 20:00, Carol Willing a écrit :
> I appreciate and respect the importance of these decisions. The dates
> that I suggested, and I am not anchored to any of them, were not
> selected to rush or be hasty. Instead, it was respect for our time
> together (at least some of us) at the September sprint and to have all
> proposals on the table by that time.

I hadn't thought about the September sprint.  I'd say it's up to people
to discuss those things there if they want or not (I would prefer if we
could avoid discussions in select groups like that, but I don't think
there's any reasonable way to prevent it).

> My biggest concern is that dragging this on into the new year will
> result in more bikeshedding, more uncertainty, and less confidence in
> the developer community decision making ability.

That's a fair point.  But there's also an opposite concern that
discussions may be deterred or cut short by a too tight deadline.  Even
simple and uncontentious PEPs take time to write, discuss and finalize.



> Hoping we can compromise on a happy medium on a timeline.
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 10:36 AM Antoine Pitrou <antoine at python.org
> <mailto:antoine at python.org>> wrote:
>     Le 19/07/2018 à 19:26, Carol Willing a écrit :
>     > Would it be possible to have all proposals:
>     >
>     > - How to determine the governance structure (PEP 10 or other approval
>     > process)
>     > - The suggested governance structure
>     >
>     > submitted by AOE August 31, 2018?
>     >
>     > That would give everyone 40ish days to get their proposals in for
>     either
>     > topic.
>     Much too short IMHO.  We are all volunteers, plus July-August is often
>     an extended leave (holiday) period in European countries (not for me,
>     but I imagine for other people perhaps).
>     This is a serious decision to take, I don't think we gain anything in
>     hasting things.  Plus we are talking about a situation that seems to
>     have taken everyone by surprise, given what I can read of the various
>     e-mails.
>     Let's let people think and elaborate at a calm pace.
>     Regards
>     Antoine.
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