[python-committers] Changing commiter status

[Brett Cannon]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 at 13:16 Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:

> I'm happy to see you do this. It'll be very interesting what kind of
> responses you get. Do you know how to get the list of 130 people? (I don't,
> but Mariatta probably has it already.)
>

WFM! Thanks, Ethan!

I guess the first step is to go through
https://bugs.python.org/user?iscommitter=1&@action=search&@sort=github&@pagesize=300
and contact the folks missing a GitHub username and to track who says "yes"
or "no" in https://devguide.python.org/developers/ in new active/emeritus
lists (opened https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 to track the
list change). After that would be to go through the Python Core team on
GitHub -- which should match who has a GitHub username on b.p.o -- and then
correlate that with who has committed in the last year on appropriate repos
and then reach out to those people.

-Brett


> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:51 PM Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> wrote:
>
>> On 06/19/2018 11:17 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
>> > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 at 17:56 Guido van Rossum wrote:
>>
>> >> I'd do it as follows. This basically makes withdrawal voluntary unless
>>  >> they don't respond at all.
>> >>
>> >> 1. Make a list of people who've not shown any sign of activity (on the
>>  >> b.p.o. or GitHub, as reviewer or committer) for at least one year.
>>  >>
>> >> 2. Email all of them, asking if they still want to be a core dev.
>> Choices
>>  >> could include
>> >> Â  a. Yes
>> >> Â  b. Keep the logo and b.p.o. access but disable GitHub key
>> >> Â  c. Drop everything
>>  >>
>> >> 3. If someone doesn't respond despite repeated attempts (maybe using
>>  >> different email addresses or social media) then after 4 weeks assume
>>  >> they meant to answer (c). But if they write back later they can be
>>  >> restored according to their preference (a, b, c), no questions asked.
>> >
>> > One point I want to make about this pull approach versus a push one is
>> this
>>  > is going to be a lot of work. :) For the "no GitHub username"
>> situation on
>>  > bugs.python.org <http://bugs.python.org> there are 80 people to reach
>> out
>>  > to. For people with commit rights who have not committed in the past
>> year
>>  > to CPython (because that's the best data point I have without writing
>> custom
>>  > code to find out who has commented on a PR recently), that would
>> require
>>  > reaching out to an additional 50 people. So we're looking at
>> potentially up
>>  > to 130 people to try and track down.
>>
>> I'm happy to do this.
>>
>> > We can make a complete list as people seem to want that and have it be
>> active
>>  > versus emeritus and list the year people got their commit rights.
>>
>> > At the end of that month whomever is still listed as emeritus we turn
>> off
>>  > their commit access and b.p.o extras. We announce this here,
>> python-dev,
>> > social media, etc. IOW this becomes more opt-in/push than opt-out/pull.
>>
>> The problem with this approach as it's one time -- as soon as someone
>> fades away it's once again out of date.
>>
>> I'll take on the task of contacting the 130 people to get this started,
>> then once a year somebody does the same thing
>> with whichever handful of people have gone dormant that year.
>>
>> Sound fair?
>>
>> --
>> ~Ethan~
>>
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