[python-committers] Can we choose between mailing list and discuss.python.org?

Giampaolo Rodola' g.rodola at gmail.com
Wed Feb 13 05:01:50 EST 2019

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:59 PM Antoine Pitrou <antoine at python.org> wrote:

> Le 11/02/2019 à 20:00, Barry Warsaw a écrit :
> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 09:48, Victor Stinner <vstinner at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> tl; dr How can we decide if we should stop using mailing list or if we
> >> should stop using discuss.python.org?
> >
> > Point of order: I think we need a PEP for this decision.  Such a PEP
> would organize and consolidate the arguments both pro and con of the three
> choices.  It should also cover whether the current Discourse experiment
> translates to larger mailing lists like python-dev, -ideas, and -list (for
> which I personally have uncertainty about).
> Same uncertainty here.  I don't think Discourse works well for long
> threads.
> Here is a 161-message Discourse thread (at the time of this writing):
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-517-backend-bootstrapping/789
> I know I can browse easily through a 161-message mailing-list or
> newsgroup thread using a traditional threaded view, read what I want,
> come back later to read the rest, etc.  But Discourse's linear
> presentation pretty much kills that ability.  It doesn't even allow
> *seeing* the structure of the discussion.

What bothers me about medium/long threads (say > 20 messages) is an "expand
all" button, showing the full conversation (upon which I may then want to
use CTRL+F). The only way to do that is by scrolling the page all the way
up or down, and in a long discussion like that one it takes a long time. If
you start at the middle of the discussion, say here:
...you have to do both (scroll up, reach the top, scroll down, reach the
bottom - only then you'll have the full thread).

Giampaolo - http://grodola.blogspot.com
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