[python-committers] Vote to promote Stéphane Wirtel as a core dev

Victor Stinner vstinner at redhat.com
Mon Mar 25 04:09:48 EDT 2019


Le lun. 25 mars 2019 à 04:58, Tim Peters <tim.peters at gmail.com> a écrit :
> I voted +1.  I haven't had significant interaction with Stéphane but certainly recognized the name and had a favorable impression.  But of my own knowledge, I have no strong opinion either way.  So my +1 was driven primarily by the strong endorsement you gave.

Honestly, such short comment is useful to me if I would be undecided.
I could decide to not follow your vote for example, since you don't
know enough Stéphane nor his work :-)

Having 90% voters who have "no strong opinion either way" or 90% of
voters who have a strong opinion (in either way, +1 or -1) would be
very different.


> Was that worth writing up?  Not to me ;-)  It's probably unrealistic to imagine than _anyone_ in the future will be well known to a majority of then-current core devs.  I only want to hear from those who _do_ have a strong opinion based on significant experience.

Just about the raw numbers, I'm happy to see that the vote got 18
votes in 3 days! I expected less. And I'm never comfortable to see a
candidate promotion accepted or rejected when there are too few votes.
Voting for promotion works :-) It seems like 1 week (including next
weekend) will be enough to get enough votes.


> So I'm disappointed that I've seen nothing from those who voted -1.   In the absence of an explicit message, I can assume a +1 voter is happy enough with what the original proposer said.  But in the absence of any -1 voter explaining their reasoning, I have no idea what to make of it.

In the past, I guess that multiple voters abstained them rather than
voting -1, only because they didn't feel comfortable for whatever
reason to have to justify a -1 in public. I also see 2 "-1" votes on
Stefan Behnel's promotion, and none is justified:
https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-to-promote-stefan-behnel-as-a-core-developer/1054

It's really hard to vote -1 in "front of" a candidate and in public if
there is significant "risk" that the candidate will be promoted and so
will become your peer soon. "Hello new core dev, you don't deserve
your promotion" would not be a warm welcome :-(

I'm surprised because previously the number of "-1" votes was lower.
One obvious explanation is that previously votes were not anonymous. I
guess that it takes time to be used to the new voting method. I guess
that with an anonymous vote, it's just that the result is "more
realistic" to the real opinion and so is more "fair". It's a good
thing that voters feel free to vote, no?

Victor
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