[Python-cuba] Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group

Thu May 7 23:02:49 CEST 2015

Hi All,

We have a mailing list now! So that's good progress.  I hope you are all
happy to participate, and I'd love to have more; especially actual Cubans.

I think the (co-)chair should absolutely be a Spanish speaker with some
fluency.  I wasn't certain that Luciano wasn't, but I see not in his note
below (some Brazilians have learned Spanish, of course; and some Americans;
but neither he nor I has done so sufficiently well).

However, I do want to be clear that even for this, I'm just talking about a
chair for the PSF outreach group.  Actual Python events in Cuba should
REALLY be organized by Cubans, or at least by long-time residents there.
For the moment, I'm the only admin on the list, but I'd love to make that
not the case, and share--or simply pass off--the more important role to
someone with deeper Cuban connections.

Best wishes, David...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luciano Ramalho <luciano at ramalho.org>
Date: Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
Cc: Roberto Rosario <roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com>, kirby urner <
kirby.urner at gmail.com>, Pedro Urra <urrape at gmail.com>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>

I also believe the chair or co-chair should speak both Spanish and
English fluently.

Now it occurs to me I need a clarification: are we looking for chairs
for this working group or for the conference? If it's the latter, I
think the conference chair should be a resident of Cuba.

Either way, I did not volunteer because I understand and read Spanish
pretty well, but I am not fluent speaking, much less writing. And I am
a resident of Brazil ;-)

Cheers,

Luciano

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:27 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've had very nice separate conversations with each of you, and I think
that
> having the people listed here be a working group for "Python in Cuba" or
the
> like would be great.  Do we have a volunteer for chair? (I'm happy to
> co-chair, but really want a fluent speaker for at least co-chair).
>
> Yours, David...
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Roberto Rosario
> <roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This working group proposal goes inline with what I'm trying to achieve
>> via Python Latino, I'm in! :)
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:03 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>>> To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>>> Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky
>>> <mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes
>>> <pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>>> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>>>> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April
Fool's
>>>> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>>>> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>>>> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>>>> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true,
naturally),
>>>> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard
from
>>>> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>>>>
>>>> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>>>> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest
in
>>>> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund
or
>>>> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup
fees or
>>>> the like, and further communication with developers in that nation
(e.g.
>>>> blog about their work and community).
>>>>
>>>> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this purpose,
>>>> and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann, and
Doug,
>>>> and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the WG/committees
I've
>>>> founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of it, just a
member.
>>>> Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is only a little
bit
>>>> better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent speaker of
Spanish
>>>> (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid that language
>>>> barrier).
>>>>
>>>> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a chair,
>>>> but also including other members who would like to help with this
particular
>>>> outreach effort.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, David...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PSF-Members mailing list
>>>> PSF-Members at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>>>> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>>>> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>>>> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> cordially,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.

--
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg

-- 
Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
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