[Python-Dev] SIG: python-lang

Paul Prescod paul@prescod.net
Wed, 31 May 2000 12:21:56 -0500

Greg Stein wrote:
> Hehe... you make it sound like I'm a criminal on trial :-)

Sorry about that. But I'll bet you didn't expect this inquisition did

> I share that concern, and raised it during the formation of python-dev. It
> appears that the pipermail archive is truncated (nothing before April last
> year). Honestly, though, I would have to say that I am/was more concerned
> with the *perception* rather than actual result.

Right, that perception is making people in comp-lang-python get a little
frustrated, paranoid, alienated and nasty. And relaying conversations
from here to there and back puts Fredrik in a bad mood which isn't good
for anyone.

> > did not include meta-sig because (or python-list) because my issue is
> > really with the accidental elitism of the python-dev setup. If
> I disagree with the term "accidental elitism." I would call it "purposeful
> meritocracy." 

The reason I think that it is accidental is because I don't think that
anyone expected so many of us to abandon comp.lang.python and thus our
direct connection to Python's user base. It just happened that way due
to human nature. That forum is full of stuff that you or I don't care
about -- compiling on AIX, ADO programming on Windows, Perl idioms, LDAP
(oops, that's here!) etc, and this one is noise-free. I'm saying that we
could have a middle ground where we trade a little noise for a little
democracy -- if only in perception.

I think that perl-porters and linux-kernel are open lists? The dictators
and demigods just had to learn to filter a little. By keeping
"python-dev" for immediately important things and implementation
details, we will actually make it easier to get the day to day pumpkin
passing done.

 Paul Prescod  - ISOGEN Consulting Engineer speaking for himself
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