[Python-Dev] %b format? - 8088 like a PDP-11 I think not...

[Barry Scott]

Eric,
	As others have pointed out your time line is wrong...

		BArry
p.s.
	I'm ex-DEC and old enough to have seen the introduction of
	the 6502 (got mine at university for $25 inc postage to the U.K.),
	Z80 and VAX (worked on product for V1.0 of VMS). Also for my sins
	argued with Gordon Bell and Dave Cutler about CPU architecture.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric S. Raymond [mailto:esr@thyrsus.com]
> Sent: 04 June 2001 21:11
> To: Barry Scott
> Cc: python-dev (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] %b format? - 8088 like a PDP-11 I think not...
> 
> 
> Barry Scott <barry@scottb.demon.co.uk>:
> > Eric wrote:
> > > While I'm at it, I should note that the design of the 11 was ancestral
> > > to both the 8088 and 68000 microprocessors, and thus to essentially 
> > > every new general-purpose computer designed in the last fifteen years.
> > 
> > The key to PDP-11 and VAX was lots of registers all a like and rich
> > addressing modes for the instructions.
> > 
> > The 8088 is very far from this design, its owes its design more to
> > 4004 then the PDP-11.
> 
> Yes, but the 4004 was designed as a sort of lobotomized imitation of the 65xx,
> which was descended from the 11.  Admiitedly, in the chain of transmission here
> were two stages of redesign so bad that the connection got really tenuous.
> -- 
> 		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
> 
> ...Virtually never are murderers the ordinary, law-abiding people
> against whom gun bans are aimed.  Almost without exception, murderers
> are extreme aberrants with lifelong histories of crime, substance
> abuse, psychopathology, mental retardation and/or irrational violence
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> 
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