[Python-Dev] Re: GadflyDA in core? Or as add-on-product?

Guido van Rossum guido@python.org
Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:14:28 -0500


> On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:40 pm, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> > No PEP is needed, but I'd like to understand more of the mechanics of
> > adding this to the distribution.  I've got no problem with adding more
> > Python code to the standard library, but (as Brett mentioned) I'd like
> > to keep the kjbuckets C code out unless we have a volunteer to both
> > clean it up and maintain it.

[Richard Jones]
> The C code will go away soon, thanks to Anthony's efforts in the kjbuckets 
> python module (the conversion to the new sets implementation, amongst other 
> enhacements).

That's good news.

> > Also, I just looked at the copy of gadfly that's part of Zope, and it
> > is about 15,000 lines! (And that's only Python code -- no C code
> > included, nor docs.)  Do we really need all that?
> 
> The cleaned up version in the sourceforge project is 11k. We may be able to 
> remove the 1.2kloc parser builder.

So that's the version that is being considered for inclusion in Python?

> >  Who is going to maintain it?
> 
> I have no answer for this. The sourceforge project has a number of 
> maintainers, but there are old outstanding bugs which have had no attention 
> (some even have patches). I'm afraid it's at the bottom of my priority list 
> at present.

Mine too.  Unless someone volunteers, I'm strongly against adopting
this code -- we can't have decaying code in the core distribution.

> > Is somebody going to convert the gadfly docs (assuming
> > they exist) into LaTeX?
> 
> I converted them to ReST as part of my cleanup, so a docutils writer which 
> writes the python doc LaTeX format _should_ be possible (it'd be a 
> nice-to-have for Python documentation regardless :)

Agreed.

> > Or is it just going to be an undocumented
> > pile of code that only people who happen to already know how to use it
> > can really use?
> 
> It is documented already. Stuart is looking at implemeting the DB-API 2.0 
> interface for it, so the doc will need updating at that point. That's not a 
> mammoth task though.

Great.

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)