amk> I forget the terms of the bet; is it running on Python 2.3.4, or the amk> 2.4alpha1 release, or on Python CVS? Maybe we should check that amk> 2.4CVS hasn't regressed in performance when compared to 2.3. I saw somewhere today when searching (maybe Dan S's website?) that it was 2.3 as of about December 2003. Skip