[Python-Dev] Re: syntactic shortcut - unpack to variably sizedlist
ncoghlan at iinet.net.au
Sat Nov 20 19:20:24 CET 2004
Raymond Hettinger wrote:
>>Officially killing that syntax was actually one of the stated goals of
> I don't think that is a worthy goal. The is some merit to the a,b,*c
> syntax. When the time is ripe, it should have its day in court.
There's currently 3 things in the PEP draft:
1. Allow slice objects as arguments list.pop and array.pop
2. Add itertools.iunpack
3. Record the rejection of a, b, *c = L in a PEP (since it's been rejected three
times now - once in 2001, and twice this year)
The first of those could probably be done without a PEP (given that a strict
reading of the documentation suggests that those methods *should* handle slices)
The 2nd can certainly be separated out. Since I now know that, for actual
iterators (rather than iterables), islice(n) will usually consume the first n
elements, it loses some of its appeal (i.e. islice already has most of the
features I like about iunpack).
The 3rd - well, I thought Guido's rejection in August suggested his position was
unlikely to change (the AST branch going in for 2.5 doesn't seem to be
significant enough to prompt a change of heart, and I can't think of anything
else likely to affect his stated reasons for rejection).
I have no great problem with leaving the a, b, *c = L idea unPEPed if there is
interest in leaving the idea 'open', though.
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