[Python-Dev] PEP 334 - Simple Coroutines via SuspendIteration
James Y Knight
foom at fuhm.net
Wed Sep 8 20:08:17 CEST 2004
On Sep 7, 2004, at 9:48 PM, Clark C. Evans wrote:
> I've packaged up the idea of a coroutine facility using iterators and
> an
> exception, SuspendIteration.
Very interesting.
> This proposal assumes that a corresponding iterator written using
> this class-based method is possible for existing generators. The
> challenge seems to be the identification of distinct states within
> the generator where suspension could occur.
That is basically impossible. Essentially *every* operation could
possibly raise SuspendIteration, because essentially every operation
can call an arbitrary python function, and python functions can raise
any exception they want. I think you could still make the proposal work
in CPython: if I understand its internals properly, it doesn't need to
do a transformation to a class iterator, it simply suspends the frame
wherever it is. Thus, being able to suspend at any point in the
function would not cause an undue performance degradation.
However, I think it is a deal-breaker for JPython. From the generator
PEP: "It's also believed that efficient implementation in Jython
requires that the compiler be able to determine potential suspension
points at compile-time, and a new keyword makes that easy." If this
quote is right about the implementation of Jython (and it seems likely,
given the JVM), your proposal makes it impossible to implement
generators in Jython.
Given that the advantage claimed for this proposal over stackless is
that it can be implemented in non-CPython runtimes, I think it still
needs some reworking.
James
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