[Python-Dev] Replacement for print in Python 3.0
skip@pobox.com
skip at pobox.com
Sat Sep 3 23:02:19 CEST 2005
>> Nope, but there is a large body of code out there that does use print
>> statements already. Again, I know you're prepared for breakage, but
>> that doesn't necessarily mean a completely blank sheet of paper.
Neal> Ideally I very much prefer that print become a function. However,
Neal> the major backlash has swayed me some, if for no other reason that
Neal> people are so strongly against changing it.
I think from Guido's perspective the print statement is a wart. From my
perspective I see it as a case of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll
adapt to a print function easily enough. The breakage just seems
unnecessary.
Neal> What if a tool existed that did the conversion? I realize that
Neal> the tool is unlikely to be perfect, but what if it could do 99.9%
Neal> of the job? I'm not thinking about just fixing print, but also
Neal> converting iterkeys/itervalues/iteritems, xrange -> range,
Neal> raw_input -> input, warning about use of input(), etc.
That's a different subject altogether, especially if you are talking about
more than just converting print. It should probably have its own subject
and thread. I don't know what's in the "etc" part, but I've never used
iter-this-n-that (their names have always seemed ugly enough that I've
simply avoided them) or raw_input, I rarely use xrange, and the conversion
is trivial, so the only potential benefit for me would be print, which I can
probably get 90% of the way there with a couple Emacs macros.
Skip
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