[Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

[Guido van Rossum]

Marc-Andre,

I think the release managers might let you change this back if you
volunteered, not to maintain all of distutils (I wouldn't wish that on
my worst enemies :-) but at least to keep the version number up to
date and to do the occasional work to keep it backwards compatible in
the way you want it.

I think it's fine of the new distutils contains new features that
won't work with older Pythons, as long as the old features still work
(and have perhaps updated functionality in some other way). How
exactly to reconcile this with the black/white notion of PPE 291 I
don't know; it seems a compromise is in order.

--Guido

On 8/15/06, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> > Guido van Rossum schrieb:
> >> I think it must be rolled back, at least as long as
> >> distutils is officially listed as a package that needs to support
> >> older versions of Python, which pretty much implies that it's okay to
> >> extract it from the 2.5 release and distribute it separately for use
> >> with older Python versions.
> >
> > See, it isn't listed as such anymore, not since AMK removed it from
> > PEP 291.
> >
> > That said, I'm not terribly opposed to it being changed back (*) - but
> > *I* won't change it back (having it changed already twice in two
> > days). I just wish I could then delegate all bug reports "distutils
> > doesn't work with older Python releases" to MAL. As far as I'm
> > concerned, this isn't a distutils feature anymore.
>
> How many of those are there ?
>
> We're running SVN distutils regularly for Python 2.4 and use
> the one that shipped with Python 2.3 (the last to support 1.5.2)
> for all versions between 1.5.2 and 2.3.
>
> We haven't hit any bugs related to distutils not being
> compatible to those Python versions anymore. The few I found
> over the years, I corrected directly in the repository.
>
> I just checked: SVN distutils (at least the parts that we use)
> still works with Python 2.2. It no longer works with Python 2.1
> due to the use of "True" and probably a few other things.
>
> > Regards,
> > Martin
> >
> > (*) where "back" means 2.5.0, not 2.4.0.
>
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