[Python-Dev] PEP: Extending the buffer protocol to share array information.

Travis Oliphant oliphant.travis at ieee.org
Wed Nov 1 23:22:52 CET 2006

Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Chris Barker wrote:
>>While /F suggested we get off the PIL bandwagon
> I suggest we drop the obsession with pointers to memory areas that are 
> supposed to have a specific format; modern data access API:s don't work 
> that way for good reasons, so I don't see why Python should grow a 
> standard based on that kind of model.

Please give us an example of a modern data-access API (i.e. an 
application that uses one)?

I presume you are not fundamentally opposed to sharing memory given the 
example you gave.

> the "right solution" for things like this is an *API* that lets you do 
> things like:
>      view = object.acquire_view(region, supported formats)
>      ... access data in view ...
>      view.release()
> and, for advanced users
>      format = object.query_format(constraints)

It sounds like you are concerned about the memory-area-not-current 
problem.  Yeah, it can be a problem (but not an unsolvable one). 
Objects that share memory through the buffer protcol just have to be 
careful about resizing themselves or eliminating memory.

Anyway, it's a problem not solved by the buffer protocol.  I have no 
problem with trying to fix that in the buffer protocol, either.

It's all completely separate from what I'm talking about as far as I can 


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