[Python-Dev] New Super PEP

Calvin Spealman ironfroggy at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 18:47:54 CEST 2007


On 4/29/07, Collin Winter <collinw at gmail.com> wrote:
> What if the instance isn't called "self"? PEP 3099 states that "self
> will not become implicit"; it's talking about method signatures, but I
> think that dictum applies equally well in this case.

I don't use the name self. I use whatever the first argument name is,
found by this line of python code:

    instance_name = calling_frame.f_code.co_varnames[0]

> Also, it's my understanding that not all Python implementations have
> an easy analogue to CPython's frames; have you given any thought to
> whether and how PyPy, IronPython, Jython, etc, will implement this?

I'll bring this up for input from PyPy and IronPython people, but I
don't know any Jython people. Are we yet letting the alternative
implementations influence so strongly what we do in CPython? I'm not
saying "screw them", just pointing out that there is always a way to
implement anything, and if its some trouble for them, well, 2.6 or 3.0
targetting is far down the road for any of them yet.

I'll add a reference implementation I have to the second draft of the PEP.

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