[Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

Jean-Paul Calderone exarkun at divmod.com
Tue Aug 12 17:12:43 CEST 2008

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:05:57 -0400, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
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>On Aug 12, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Sebastian Rittau wrote:
>>[I just saw the other post about unit testing, while I was writing  this.
>>A strange conincidence.]
>Indeed.  I've played around (again) recently with both nose and  py.test, so 
>I'd like to make a meta comment.
>I would really like to see some of the people who are interested in  Python 
>unit testing to get together and work on an updated testing  framework that 
>incorporates the best ideas from all the existing  frameworks.  I'd like to 
>see good integration with setuptools, both  for running the tests and for 
>packaging.  I'd like to see good doctest  support, with the ability to hook 
>in setups and teardowns.  I'd like  to see some of useful things like layers 
>taken from zope.testing.
>This doesn't belong on python-dev, and probably not on python-ideas  either, 
>but I'd be willing to start a testing SIG on python.org if  others are 
>interested in getting together for this purpose.  The goal  should be to 
>produce something like a unittest-ng, distribute it via  the Cheeseshop, and 
>gather consensus around it for possible inclusion  in Python 2.7/3.1.

A SIG might be a good idea.  There's also already the "testing in python"
list, too:


A lot of this discussion would be appropriate there.


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