[Python-Dev] Small RFEs and the Bug Tracker

Virgil Dupras hsoft at hardcoded.net
Mon Feb 18 13:38:44 CET 2008

On 2/18/08, Facundo Batista <facundobatista at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
> Don't now if always, or in the last few months where I've been
> following the issues more closely, but I found that are appearing a
> lot of small RFEs in the tracker.
> These normally are small but not trivial things. In most cases when I
> read them I think "Mmm, yes... it won't hurt to have it, but it's not
> so important, and definitively not my itch to scratch". See, for
> example, this [1] one, that ask for a factorial method in the
> integers.
> Normally these RFEs stay there for a long time, unless they're clearly
> negative, because they don't raise any discussion.
> OTOH, we have a PEP for feature requests [2]. I quote part of it:
> """
>     This PEP was created to allow us to close bug reports that are really
>     feature requests.  Marked as Open, they distract from the list of real
>     bugs (which should ideally be less than a page).  Marked as Closed, they
>     tend to be forgotten.  The procedure now is:  if a bug report is really
>     a feature request, add the feature request to this PEP; mark the bug as
>     "feature request", "later", and "closed"; and add a comment to the bug
>     saying that this is the case (mentioning the PEP explicitly).
> """
> This is still valid? Should we start moving RFEs to this PEP and
> closing their issues in the tracker?
> Or should we try to get more discussion regarding these RFEs? Maybe,
> for example, a weekly digest where the latests RFEs added are sent to
> python-dev, so we can actually say "no way" and close them, or say
> "nice" and *then* moving them to the PEP (this has the risk of nobody
> saying anything, and to stay in the same position as before).
> What do you think? Opinions?
> Thank you very much!
> Regards,
> [1] http://bugs.python.org/issue2138
> [2] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0042/
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Personally, I think that a bug tracker is a good place to keep RFE,
not a PEP. I think that the PEP would tend to be cluttered with RFE
nobody cares about forever. So the clutter can never be cleaned unless
someone takes the responsibility to mercilessly remove them.

What I really think should be done is first to get rid of all these 8+
months old issues, and then have a kind of system that after 8 months,
an issue goes back in "dying mode" where it surfaces back with a
message "Does anyone have any reason to believe this issue should
still be alive?" If there is no answer after a week, the issue is


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