[Python-Dev] [Python-3000] No beta2 tonight

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Fri Jul 18 16:21:45 CEST 2008

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <fdrake at acm.org> wrote:
>>> On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>>>> bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code hasn't been merged into
>>>> 3k. I somewhat doubt that this gets resolved before the release, so
>>>> bsddb users might need to skip 3.0.
>>> In fact, bsddb as packages in core Python has rarely been in good shape.
>>> Has anyone actually considered that bsddb might do better if maintained
>>> strictly as an external package?  That would make it easier for the any
>>> maintainers to release updates, and removes a source of frustration for
>>> users who either don't need it or would rather wait for a happier version.
>>> I think this is worth considering.  I vaguely recall that the bsddb module
>>> was maintained before it was incorporated into the core Python release.
>> +1. In my recollection maintaining bsddb has been nothing but trouble
>> right from the start when we were all sitting together at "Zope Corp
>> North" in a rented office in McLean... We can remove it from 3.0. We
>> can't really remove it from 2.6, but we can certainly start
>> end-of-lifing it in 2.6.

> Unless I hear otherwise, I will add it to PEP 3108.

Please do!

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

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