[Python-Dev] Choosing a best practice solution for Python/extension modules
Jean-Paul Calderone
exarkun at divmod.com
Sat Feb 21 18:17:49 CET 2009
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:45:26 -0800, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:53, Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:37, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:31, Daniel Stutzbach <
>> >> daniel at stutzbachenterprises.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> A slight change would make it work for modules where only key functions
>> >>> have been rewritten. For example, pickle.py could read:
>> >>>
>> >>> from _pypickle import *
>> >>> try: from _pickle import *
>> >>> except ImportError: pass
>> >>
>> >> True, although that still suffers from the problem of overwriting things
>> >> like __name__, __file__, etc.
>> >
>> > Actually, I take that back; the IMPORT_STAR opcode doesn't pull in
>> anything
>> > starting with an underscore. So while this alleviates the worry above, it
>> > does mean that anything that gets rewritten needs to have a name that
>> does
>> > not lead with an underscore for this to work. Is that really an
>> acceptable
>> > compromise for a simple solution like this?
>>
>> Doesn't __all__ control this?
>
>
>If you define it, yes.
>
>But there is another issue with this: the pure Python code will never call
>the extension code because the globals will be bound to _pypickle and not
>_pickle. So if you have something like::
>
> # _pypickle
> def A(): return _B()
> def _B(): return -13
>
> # _pickle
> def _B(): return 42
>
> # pickle
> from _pypickle import *
> try: from _pickle import *
> except ImportError: pass
>
>If you import pickle and call pickle.A() you will get -13 which is not what
>you are after.
If pickle and _pypickle are both Python modules, and _pypickle.A is intended
to be used all the time, regardless of whether _pickle is available, then
there's not really any reason to implement A in _pypickle. Just implement it
in pickle. Then import whatever optionally fast thing it depends on from
_pickle, if possible, and fall-back to the less fast thing in _pypickle
otherwise.
This is really the same as any other high-level/low-level library split. It
doesn't matter that in this case, one low-level implementation is provided as
an extension module. Importing the low-level APIs from another module and
then using them to implement high-level APIs is a pretty common, simple,
well-understood technique which is quite applicable here.
Jean-Paul
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