[Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

"Martin v. Löwis" martin at v.loewis.de
Sat Jan 3 23:47:35 CET 2009

>> As a consequence, I would always request that whatever VCS Python
>> uses: the version that is in the current Debian's "stable" distribution
>> must be sufficient to use the VCS, and must in particular be sufficient
>> on the server side.
> Even if someone like me or Barry volunteers to maintain the
> installation of the DVCS software? I would be willing to do this
> if/when the replacement for svn is chosen.

Now we need to separate between server side and client side; for
each side, there should be a minimum required version (which might
be different).

If Debian stable doesn't include the minimum required client version,
I will be opposed to switching to the DVCS.

If it doesn't include the minimum required server version, I could
live with somebody maintaining a manual installation (which then
hopefully can be replaced with an official package on the next upgrade).

> This is why depending wholly on Debian for everything can be annoying.
> I understand the policy and support it overall, but in the case of
> something like a DVCS that doesn't have ridiculous dependencies like
> svn and someone explicitly taking the lead on the specific
> installation it would seem like an exception could potentially be
> made.

It's always possible to make exceptions. It's not just about the VCS;
there have been requests to replace Apache, NTP, Zope, Postgres,
MoinMoin, and a few other packages. There have been many problems
on upgrade for the cases where we gave in: shared libraries were
missing after the upgrade (for Zope), the software wasn't available
anymore after the upgrade (in case of manually-install Python pacakges),
and so on. Very few people have actually helped in fixing these
problems (applause to AMK for being very helpful with the most recent

I'd rather have the users annoyed than finding out that the custom
setup opened an entrance for hackers.


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