[Python-Dev] Ext4 data loss

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Wed Mar 11 03:55:34 CET 2009

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Christian Heimes <lists at cheimes.de> wrote:
> Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>> Christian Heimes <lists <at> cheimes.de> writes:
>>> I agree with you, fsync() shouldn't be called by default. I didn't plan
>>> on adding fsync() calls all over our code. However I like to suggest a
>>> file.sync() method and a synced flag for files to make the job of
>>> application developers easier.
>> We already have os.fsync() and os.fdatasync(). Should the sync() (and
>> datasync()?) method be added as an object-oriented convenience?
> It's more than an object oriented convenience. fsync() takes a file
> descriptor as argument. Therefore I assume fsync() only syncs the data
> to disk that was written to the file descriptor. [*] In Python 2.x we
> are using a FILE* based stream. In Python 3.x we have our own buffered
> writer class.
> In order to write all data to disk the FILE* stream must be flushed
> first before fsync() is called:
>    PyFileObject *f;
>    if (fflush(f->f_fp) != 0) {
>        /* report error */
>    }
>    if (fsync(fileno(f->f_fp)) != 0) {
>        /* report error */
>    }

Let's not think too Unix-specific. If we add such an API it should do
something on Windows too -- the app shouldn't have to test for the
presence of the API. (And thus the API probably shouldn't be called

> Christian
> [*] Is my assumption correct, anybody?

It seems to be, at least it's ambiguous.

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