[Python-Dev] Integrate BeautifulSoup into stdlib?
skippy.hammond at gmail.com
Tue Mar 24 23:28:45 CET 2009
On 25/03/2009 6:51 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>> Mike Driscoll did some work providing Windows installers for various
>> Python packages and extension modules, and people were amused that he
>> provided executable installers for pure Python libraries. But I saw that
>> as a sensible decision, since it meant that Windows users (and even
>> Windows Python application developers) used the same mechanism to
>> install everything.
> The Windows story is indeed sad, as none of the Windows packaging
> formats provides support for dependencies (MSI has some support,
> but as far as I understand it, it's pretty useless). But yes, for
> Windows, you want .exe or .msi installers, not something proprietary.
Isn't this discussion slightly at cross-purposes?
* py2exe doesn't create *installers*, just the target application. It
(poorly) manages dependencies on the build machine. There doesn't seem
to be a need for runtime dependency management in this tool.
* The creation of an *installer* is something quite different. An
installer for a py2exe based tool also doesn't need dependency
management. An installer for a pure-python package that made no attempt
to bundle dependencies might be nice, but I don't quite see how that
falls outside the scope of distutils/setuptools/etc. In other words, I
don't see why the installer can't bootstrap the 'normal' dependency
management which would be used if the package was installed any other
way or on other platforms.
* distutils already has the ability to create Windows installer
executables for pure-python apps/libs. I agree it would be nice if it
was an MSI but that is an implementation detail rather than
implementation requirement. How were Mike's packages fundamentally
different than that?
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