[Python-Dev] PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?

[Olemis Lang]

Intention = precision => for a better PyPI

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
>> Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frankly, I agree with him. As implemented, I *and others* think this
>>>> is broken. I've taken the stance of not publishing things to PyPi
>>>> until A> I find the time to contribute to make it better or B> It
>>>> changes.
>>>
>>> That's distressing.  For better or worse PyPI is the central repository of
>>> 3rd party packages.  It should be easy, desirable, fun and socially
>>> encouraged to get your packages there.
>>
>> I think his point is that a new book announcement servive is different from
>> a book review and rating service.  And that mixing the two is 'socially
>> discouraging'. I do not know what the answer is
>
> I would say that publishers disagree -- they seem to really like
> adding "social" stuff to their book announcement service. See e.g.
> Amazon (which combines all functions: announcement/promotion,
> ordering/download, review/comments/rate/popularity).
>

... but (most) book writers don't use an issue tracker to manage and
get *useful* feedback from their readers (I know there are exceptions
to the rule ;o) and fix the book chapters or anything else . Besides
there are some differences between software and books and the way both
of them are created, used and enhanced . What I don't like (today)
about comments + votes is that I have to do the same thing in two
different places (especially because one of the sources is *very*
noisy). If there's a way to integrate both and «reduce» the noise ,
that would be nice .

;o)

> I agree that creating a good social app is not easy, and if we can't
> improve the social app embedded in PyPI quickly enough, we should at
> least give authors the option to disable comments.

+1

> Of course, as a
> user, I might not trust a module that has no reviews or ratings.
>

Not really sure. For example, if a user access the page for setuptools
(just an example ;o) soon she/he will realize that other people use it
very often and also has a high kwalitee score, therefore it is quite
unlikely that such package be «irrelevant» or «untrusted» (this is
IMHO) .

-- 
Regards,

Olemis.

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