[Python-Dev] Top-posting on this list

MRAB python at mrabarnett.plus.com
Sun Oct 11 18:07:29 CEST 2009

Masklinn wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2009, at 13:36 , Tarek Ziadé wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Ben Finney 
>> <ben+python at benfinney.id.au> wrote:
>>> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> writes:
>>>> Trimming can be a PITA if you're using a crummy MUA
>>> How so? It merely requires the ability to navigate up and down by lines,
>>> and to select and delete text. I've used some very crummy MUAs, but the
>>> ability to trim quoted text has never been absent or difficult. Are
>>> there MUAs so crummy that this is a PITA, yet still used by any
>>> significant portion of email users?
>> You just can't do it on some mobile device mail clients. For instance
>> Gmail's client on Android.
>> It will just top-post and quote the whole mail for you AFAIK.
> I'll add the iPhone pre 3.0 Mail (also holds for the Touch): while 
> trimming was possible, it was done using the delete key and character 
> per character (jumping to word per word after a few seconds) because 
> there was no selection.
> This made trimming long mails a fairly long-winded task already, but 
> things were even worse due to the lack of undo: not stopping soon enough 
> (and deleting part of the text you wanted to quote) meant you had to 
> either re-type it manually or restart the whole operation from the start.
> This has thankfully been fixed (with the addition of a pretty good 
> selection mechanism and an undo).
> Another iPhone mail "feature", (which hasn't been fixed and is actually 
> just as broken in the desktop version of Mail) is that Mail is hardcoded 
> to top-post: it's not possible to make the insertion point default to 
> bottom the quote, it's always above it with a bunch of white-spaces for 
> the message. Not much of an issue, but it still makes top-posting lower 
> friction than bottom-posting or trimming.
Didn't the iPhone also lack cut-and-paste?

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