[Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases
Stephen J. Turnbull
stephen at xemacs.org
Thu Oct 22 08:54:39 CEST 2009
David Lyon writes:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:38:26 -0700, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
> > David, you are making a huge leap here thinking that we even want
> > a package manager in the stdlib.
>
> Well - who is 'we'? If it's python-dev people I can accept and
> respect that.
Yes. The stdlib is a product of python-dev.
> If it's regular developers out there in developer land,
They are not participants in this decision. python-dev people *do*
care about them. Nevertheless python-dev is manifestly uninterested
in dealing with *this* issue on behalf of the "regular developers out
there". (With good reasons IMHO, but you can find those reasons
elsewhere.)
To make progress here on python-dev, you need to get those regular
developers involved in python-dev. I can think of two ways to do this
that will help. (1) Turn them into committers via whatever aspect of
the language they are interested in. This will take a while, and
substantial contribution (ie, effort) on their part. Once that
happens, they will be in a much stronger position to advocate the
package manager and credibly promise to maintain it (or find a new,
credible maintainer) indefinitely.
(2) Put the package manager on PyPI and get a lot of people on the
bandwagon. If it's a good product and recommended, the movers and
shakers of python-dev will be very likely to try it and more likely to
second your motion in the future.
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