[Python-Dev] "Buildbot" category on the tracker

exarkun at twistedmatrix.com exarkun at twistedmatrix.com
Fri Oct 30 01:58:05 CET 2009

On 29 Oct, 11:41 pm, jnoller at gmail.com wrote:
>On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:04 PM,  <exarkun at twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
>>On 02:30 pm, solipsis at pitrou.net wrote:
>>>What do you think of creating a "buildbot" category in the tracker? 
>>>often problems on specific buildbots which would be nice to track, 
>>>nowhere to do so.
>>Is your idea that this would be for tracking issues with the *bots*
>>themselves?  That is, not just for tracking cases where some test 
>>fails on a particular bot, but for tracking cases where, say, a bot's 
>>has run out of disk space and cannot run the tests at all?
>>For the case where a test is failing because of some platform or 
>>issue, it seems more sensible to track the ticket as relating to that
>>platform or environment, or track it in relation to the feature it 
>>Of course, tickets could move between these classifications as 
>>reveals new information about the problem.
>Then again, I know for a fact certain tests fail ONLY on certain
>buildbots because of the way they're configured. For example, certain
>multiprocessing tests will fail if /dev/shm isn't accessible on Linux,
>and several of the buildbosts are in tight chroot jails and don't have
>that exposed.
>Is it a bug in that buildbot, a platform specific bug, etc?

It's a platform configuration that can exist.  If you're rejecting that 
configuration and saying that CPython will not support it, then it's 
silly to have a buildbot set up that way, and presumably that should be 

The point is that this isn't about buildbot.  It's about CPython and 
what platforms it supports.  Categorizing it by "buildbot" is not 
useful, because no one is going to be cruising along looking for 
multiprocessing issues to fix by browsing tickets by the "buildbot" 

If, on the other hand, (sticking with this example) /dev/shm-less 
systems are not a platform that CPython wants to support, then having a 
buildbot running on one is a bit silly.  It will probably always fail, 
and all it does is contribute another column of red.  Who does that 


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