[Python-Dev] Looking after the buildbots (in general)

[Steve Holden]

On 8/4/2010 2:57 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>> This whole discussion seems to make it clear that the release manager
>> procedures are still ill-defined in certain areas.
> 
> No. It rather makes clear that people who never had the role of release
> manager
> 
>> Otherwise a release
>> manager could proceed by reading a web page an even, heaven help us,
>> following specific links to ensure particular actions were taken.
> 
> When Barry had the keys to the time machine, he wrote PEP 101,
> to give you a web page with specific links in it:
> 
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0101/
> 
>> But I see rules being established ("there's a language moratorium: no
>> changes!", "no release should be made unless the buildbots are *all*
>> green") and then ignored apparently on a whim.
> 
> What makes you say that?
> 
>> Establishing comprehensive procedures can be as difficult as
>> programming, though, and requires skills that have eluded me through a
>> fairly lengthy technical career. So it also boils down to shortage of
>> manpower of a particular kind. People with programming skill would,
>> understandably, rather invest their time in something they are good at.
> 
> I think you are belittling the contributions of past and present
> release managers.
> 
I'd prefer to say I was displaying my ignorance.

regards
 Steve
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