[Python-Dev] topics I plan to discuss at the language summit

Brett Cannon brett at python.org
Tue Jan 12 19:34:02 CET 2010

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:31, R. David Murray <rdmurray at bitdance.com>wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:47:50 -0800, Brett Cannon wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 17:57, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:25, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
> > >>  * any changes needed to the issue tracker to help with the workflow?
> > >> (stage field seems like a failed experiment and we now have several
> > >> effective triage people who can help w/ guiding changes)
> > >>
> > > I think it would be interesting to see how people are using the
> tracker, or
> > > how they want to be using it. For example, there are currently over
> 1500
> > > open issues with no stage set, some of which seemingly haven't been
> read by
> > > anyone at all. Would a properly set stage field save issues from
> falling
> > > into a black hole?
> > >
> > "Using" is the key word there. I know this thread went on about how bugs
> > tend to end up being left open, but what I was proposing to talk about
> was
> > whether there is any shift desired by the seasoned tracker users to help
> in
> > their work. For instance, the Stage field was meant to help, but I don't
> > think it is really getting used much, which makes it at best just a UI
> junk
> > and at worst something to confuse new users. So I just wanted to discuss
> > things as a group to see if we could streamline some things, add others,
> > etc.
> Well, I for one find the stage field useful.  It reminds me at a glance
> where the issue is at in the workflow (and 'not set' is a valid place
> in the workflow that an issue sometimes stays in for a while for reason
> other than not having been triaged yet).  I suspect that if we discussed
> it as a group (we who make the most changes on the tracker) we could
> improve it, and the interface in general.
> By the way, you could talk to people who aren't going to be at the
> summit on #python-dev; I think all the currently tracker-active people
> hang out there on a regular basis.
Sounds reasonable.

> I'll have to give some thought to what changes/improvements might be
> most useful, now that I've been doing this for a while.

How about everyone who is active on bugs.python.org give it some thought and
we can try to have a discussion at some point in the relatively near future.

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