[Python-Dev] Getting an optional parameter instead of creating a socket internally

Mattias Brändström thebrasse at brasse.org
Mon Jul 12 14:30:40 CEST 2010


On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:06 PM, <exarkun at twistedmatrix.com> wrote:

> On 03:11 pm, jcea at jcea.es wrote:
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>> On 13/04/10 04:03, exarkun at twistedmatrix.com wrote:
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>>> On 12 Apr, 11:19 pm, jcea at jcea.es wrote:
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>>>> On 04/13/2010 12:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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>>>>> Jesus Cea <jcea <at> jcea.es> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: "socket.setdefaulttimeout()" is not enough, because it could
>>>>>> shutdown a perfectly functional connection, just because it was idle
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> too long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The socket timeout doesn't shutdown anything. It just puts a limit on
>>>>> how much
>>>>> time recv() and send() can block. Then it's up to you to detect
>>>>> whether the
>>>>> server is still alive (for example by pinging it through whatever
>>>>> means the
>>>>> application protocol gives you).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A regular standard library (let say, poplib) would abort, after getting
>>>> the timeout exception.
>>>>
>>>>> 4. Modify client libraries to accept a new optional socket-like object
>>>>>> as an optional parameter. This would allow things like transparent
>>>>>> compression or encryption, or to replace the socket connection by
>>>>>> anything else (read/write to shared memory or database, for example).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This could be useful too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been thinking about this for years. Do you actually think this
>>>> could be formally proposed?.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Every once in a while I make a little bit more progress on the PEP I'm
>>> working on for this.  If you want to talk more about this, you can find
>>> me in #python-dev or #twisted on freenode.
>>>
>>> Jean-Paul
>>>
>>
>> Jean-Paul, I would like to have this for 3.2. How is the PEP going?.
>>
>
> It's still little more than an outline.  You can see it here:
>
>  http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/ProtocolPEP
>
> And if you're interested in helping, we can figure out a way to do that
> (you can have edit permission on the wiki or we can move the document
> elsewhere, whatever).
>
> Jean-Paul
>
>
This seems like an interesting idea to me. I would like to figure out some
way I could help with the PEP. If you move the document, could you please
keep me updated on the new location?

:.:: mattias


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