[Python-Dev] Goodbye

Georg Brandl g.brandl at gmx.net
Thu Sep 23 09:04:30 CEST 2010

Am 23.09.2010 04:35, schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:18:39 am Tim Peters wrote:
>> Yikes - Mark has done terrific work in some very demanding areas, &
>> I'd hate to see him feel unwelcome.  So that's my advice:  find a
>> way to smooth this over.  You're welcome ;-)
> I'd like to second that. Mark has been pushy, annoying and demanding, 
> although he has his bad points too *grins*. 
> Seriously, Mark has brought a remarkable amount of energy to the 
> tracker, for good and bad. The good shouldn't give him a Get Out Of 
> Jail Free card forever, but in the absence of any knowledge of what 
> lead to Mark's tracker privileges being revoked, I have no objections 
> in principle to giving him a second chance if the devs decide that is 
> acceptable and Mark is willing. (Not that my objections carry much 
> weight.)

I'd like to point out that only the Developer tracker privileges had
been revoked at first, which meant that Mark could continue commenting
and stirring up old issues, which is what made his work so valuable.
He could not continue prematurely closing issues, which is what many
devs objected to, and Raymond explained that to him in a private email
(which I can only believe was polite and not at all offending).

However, as a response to that, messages like this one started to be
posted to several issues: http://bugs.python.org/msg117108
and since they were reposted even after being removed (unlinked) from
the tracker item, the devs active on IRC at that moment could only
suspect that this would continue for every issue that had Mark in its
nosy list.  That is a disruption that is not acceptable, and led to
the removal of his User privilege as well, which I would say is wholly

Of course, this is *not* a ban!  The privileges can be restored any
time that Mark asks for it, but I would at least like to see an apology.

> Either way, I would like to publicly thank Mark for his efforts and 
> wish him the best for the future.

Same here.


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Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy
indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou
two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out.

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