[Python-Dev] Python wiki

Georg Brandl g.brandl at gmx.net
Fri Sep 24 09:24:35 CEST 2010

Am 23.09.2010 22:25, schrieb anatoly techtonik:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
>> I certainly agree with that.  So, how can we solve those problems?  Radomir
>> has shell access now so perhaps we can ask him to make the Python wiki theme
>> more visually appealing.  What roadblocks do people encounter when they want
>> to help garden or reorganize the wiki?
> First of all Wiki is outdated. Correct me, but python.org specific
> customizations are not modules, but patches that makes it hard to
> update the Wiki to latest version or add new customizations.

That's why we have a Moin core developer on the team.  ISTM that Moin 1.x
is notoriously hard to extend -- once you go beyond plugins adding new wiki
macros -- which is part of what the team wants to fix in 2.x.

> Second - ugly Creole syntax. I am for inter-cooperation between wikis,
> and I understand that for non-developer communities [] symbols
> imposing problems, but as an open source developer I am addicted to
> Trac and Google Code syntax and never had problems with those.

This isn't Creole syntax, it's Moin wiki syntax.  And face it, it's not
going to change.  It's also not so much different from Trac wiki syntax.

> Fourth. GPL license. I personally don't have interest to waste my time
> for the code I won't be able to use in some projects, unless the
> project is either exceptional (Mercurial) or interesting. To make
> python.org MoinMoin interesting - there should be an inviting
> entrypoint (see point three above) and the list of tasks to choose
> form. Something that is better than
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/SiteImprovements

Yes, that needs to be updated indeed.

> Fifth. Credits and motivation for all python.org works. I still
> convinced that there should be one primary dedicated list and it
> should be public. All sensitive issues can be discussed with
> webmasters@ privately, but the primary list should be run by
> community. Not the volunteers who are better than others. If there
> will be a feeling that site is run by community, then you can expect
> contributions. Otherwise expect the community to think "they're doing
> the stuff here, so they will fix it".

I'm puzzled what you expect in addition to the pydotorg-www list.


Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less.
Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy
indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou
two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out.

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