[Python-Dev] Python wiki

Georg Brandl g.brandl at gmx.net
Sat Sep 25 21:41:12 CEST 2010

Am 25.09.2010 21:12, schrieb Paul Boddie:

> Georg Brandl wrote:
>> Am 23.09.2010 22:25, schrieb anatoly techtonik:
>> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
>> >> I certainly agree with that.  So, how can we solve those problems? 
>> >> Radomir has shell access now so perhaps we can ask him to make the
>> >> Python wiki theme more visually appealing.  What roadblocks do people
>> >> encounter when they want to help garden or reorganize the wiki?
>> >
>> > First of all Wiki is outdated. Correct me, but python.org specific
>> > customizations are not modules, but patches that makes it hard to
>> > update the Wiki to latest version or add new customizations.
>> That's why we have a Moin core developer on the team.  ISTM that Moin 1.x
>> is notoriously hard to extend -- once you go beyond plugins adding new wiki
>> macros -- which is part of what the team wants to fix in 2.x.
> Although I understand the sentiments about "specific customizations", 
> python.org should only have its theme as something that isn't a generic 
> extension to MoinMoin, and that theme should be actively maintained. When 
> python.org switched its architecture a while ago, the special theme 
> presumably came with the deal, but it's been so out of date for so long that 
> I switched to one of the standard themes years ago. Fortunately, Radomir's 
> EuroPython theme is actively maintained, works with recent MoinMoin releases, 
> looks a lot better than the old theme, and is used elsewhere.

As a disclaimer, I have no idea about the specific configuration of Moin used
at wiki.python.org.

> As for Moin 1.x being "notoriously hard to extend" beyond macros, you can get 
> a long way with macros and actions, although I agree that sometimes it's 
> possible to hit architectural constraints.

It's just that every Moin installation I've come across used custom patches,
and as a consequence was difficult to update.


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Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy
indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou
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