[Python-Dev] [PATCH] Adding braces to __future__

[Matt Joiner]

Ditch the colon too. Also you're a troll.
On Dec 10, 2011 9:58 AM, "Cedric Sodhi" <manday at gmx.net> wrote:

> I reply to your contribution mainly because I see another, valid
> argument hidden in what you formulated as an opinion:
>
> Readability would be reduced by such "noise". To anticipate other people
> agreeing with that, let me say, that it would be exactly one more
> character, and the same amount of key presses. All that, assuming you
> use editor automatisms, which particularly the advocates of WSB tend to
> bring forth in defense of WSB and aforementioned problems associated
> with it.
>
> Only one more character and not more key presses? Yes, instead of
> opening a block with a colon, you open it with an opening bracket. And
> you close it with a closing one.
>
> Referring to "noise", I take it you are preferring naturally expressed
> languages (what Roff's PIC, for example, exemplifies to banality).
>
> How is a COLON, which, in natural language, PUNCTUATES a context, any
> more suited than braces, which naturally ENCLOSE a structure?
>
> Obviously, it by far is not, even from the standpoint of not
> intersparsing readable code with unnatural characters.
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 09:40:54AM +1100, Matt Joiner wrote:
> >    If braces were introduced I would switch to Haskell, I can't stand the
> >    noise. If you want to see a language that allows both whitespace, semi
> >    colons and braces take a look at it. Nails it.
> >
> >    On Dec 10, 2011 9:31 AM, "Cedric Sodhi" <[1]manday at gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> >      On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 02:21:42PM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> >      >    On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Cedric Sodhi
> >      <[1][2]manday at gmx.net> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >      IF YOU THINK YOU MUST REPLY SOMETHING WITTY, ITERATE THAT
> THIS
> >      HAD BEEN
> >      >      DISCUSSED BEFORE, REPLY THAT "IT'S SIMPLY NOT GO'NNA HAPPEN",
> >      THAT "WHO
> >      >      DOESN'T LIKE IT IS FREE TO CHOOSE ANOTHER LANGUAGE" OR
> SOMETHING
> >      >      SIMILAR, JUST DON'T.
> >      >
> >      >    Every single response in this thread so far has ignored this
> >      request. The
> >      >    correct response honoring this should have been deafening
> silence.
> >      >
> >      >    For me, if I had to design a new language today, I would
> probably
> >      use
> >      >    braces, not because they're better than whitespace, but because
> >      pretty
> >      >    much every other lanugage uses them, and there are more
> interesting
> >      >    concepts to distinguish a new language. That said, I don't
> regret
> >      that
> >      >    Python uses indentation, and the rest I have to say about the
> topic
> >      would
> >      >    violate the above request.
> >      >
> >
> >      I think this deserves a reply. Thank you for contributing your
> opinion
> >      and respecting my request and therefore honoring the rules of a
> >      civilized debate.
> >
> >      -- Cedric
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