[Python-Dev] contributors survey?

Jérôme Radix jerome.radix at gmail.com
Wed Mar 2 16:23:48 CET 2011

It seems that there are two kinds of developers (ok, it's over-generalized)

1- the ones that have a problem with python and file bugs into the issue
trackers : they don't try to search for solutions, they want core-developers
to check and correct their bugs. The motivation for these developers are
that they have a problem to solve. They do a great job finding tricky

2- the ones that try to reproduce bugs filed into the issue tracker, that
try to create patches : the motivation for these developers are that they
"love" python, they "love" to solve problems and learn about the python
language details. These are generally the ones that participate to events
like hackathons, bug days...

IMHO, what python misses the most are developers of the second category. A
solution would be to organize and promote this second category of developers
in order to grow their number.


2011/3/2 Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>
> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:43:27 -0800
> >> Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But I wouldn't be surprised if some people had regrets about the way
> >>> the community works (I can recall at least one such case) and it would
> >>> be useful to learn from those occasions, if they'll let us. And the
> >>> numbers might tell us something, too.
> >>
> >> Yes, that's the kind of things that would be good to hear about IMO.
> >> It's obvious that in some cases patches and reports go simply
> >> unanswered for years, and in these cases a first-time reporter or
> >> contributor won't bother again (who would?).
> >> But I wonder if there are other social or technical factors, such as
> >> the community being too intimidating or not welcoming enough.
> >>
> >> Actually, if some python-dev readers have something to say about that,
> >> they are welcome :)
> >
> > FWIW, Here's some feedback I got from the community awhile ago - not
> > all of the respondents are ex contributors, but rather this is a
> > general "why don't you contribute" question. I've still not had the
> > time to internalize it, other then to pester Brett to work on the dev
> > docs.
> >
> > http://jessenoller.com/2010/04/22/why-arent-you-contributing-to-python/
> > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1285897
> >
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/burio/why_arent_you_contributing_to_python/
> >
> > It's worth a good read-through. I got a lot of private emails all in
> > the same tone. Speed of turn around, push back from entrenched
> > developers turning off new contributors, etc.
> >
> > Jesse
> >
> Let me point out, in a positive light, that the feedback from the
> above is what triggered me to drive the PSF Sprints project
> (http://pythonsprints.com/) at the board/PSF level.
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