[Python-Dev] Official Roadmap (Re: Let's get PEP 380 into Python 3.3)

[anatoly techtonik]

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 06:40, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Now that the language moratorium is lifted, let's make sure to get PEP
>> > 380 implemented for Python 3.3.
>>
>> How about official RoadMap? There is no visibility into what's going
>> on in Python development. New people can' t jump in and help do bring
>> some features faster. http://dungeonhack.sourceforge.net/Roadmap
>
> You could put together something fancy out of a query for all 3.3 feature
> requests [0] if you want this.

> [0] http://goo.gl/4RMp8

I've got error - "You do not have permission to store queries". That
should mean something.

> I'm also not sure if that would be entirely useful. Python development is
> fairly relaxed in that you work on what you want to work on, when you want
> to do it. If you fill up some roadmap with all 180 feature requests on that
> page, they are not all going to get done, and it's not a condition of doing
> the release.

Roadmap is not a strict plan for release. It helps people
*self-organize into teams* around specific feature or bugs. One of the
features of Roadmap is that *if you add an item to it, you're willing
to support development* of this item. Roadmap is not needed for those
core developers, who prefer to work in isolation, but even they can
find it *useful to see who works on what, and what users actually
want*.

Yes, there can (or even should) be a way for everybody with Python
account to vote on items in the Roadmap and subscribe to updates (like
commits, messages, code reviews, tweets and other stuff related to one
item). This will give Jesse and teams a better picture, what sprints
need funding. Tracker doesn't allow this - even though users can
subscribe to Roundup issues, it just doesn't work for them. And the
last distinction between Roadmap and Tracker is that the former gives
you a quick overview of each item without going into the gory details
of lengthy discussions.

I'd say this is a good project for Google Summer of Code, which
deadline for submission is next Friday, BTW.
-- 
anatoly t.