[Python-Dev] PEP 414 - Unicode Literals for Python 3

[R. David Murray]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:10:25 -0500, Chris McDonough <chrism at plope.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 21:07 +0000, Paul Moore wrote:
> > On 27 February 2012 20:39, Chris McDonough <chrism at plope.com> wrote:
> > > Note that u'' literals are sort of the tip of the iceberg here;
> > > supporting them will obviously not make development under the subset an
> > > order of magnitude less sucky, just a tiny little bit less sucky.  There
> > > are other extremely annoying things, like str(bytes) returning the repr
> > > of a bytestring on Python 3.  That's almost as irritating as the absence
> > > of u'' literals, but we have to evaluate one thing at a time.
> > 
> > So. Am I misunderstanding here, or are you suggesting that this
> > particular PEP doesn't help you much, but if it's accepted, it
> > represents "the thin end of the wedge" for a series of subsequent PEPs
> > suggesting fixes for a number of other "extremely annoying things"...?
> > 
> > I'm sure that's not what you meant, but it's certainly what it sounded
> > like to me!
> 
> I'm way too lazy.  The political wrangling is just too draining
> (especially over something so trivial).  But I will definitely support
> other proposals that make it easier to straddle, sure.

"tip of the iceberg", eh?  Or the nose of the camel in the tent.

This pushes me in the direction of a -1 vote.

--David