[Python-Dev] PEP 414

Yury Selivanov yselivanov.ml at gmail.com
Tue Feb 28 17:29:42 CET 2012


Hi Armin,

Could you please remove from the PEP the following statement:

"""As it stands, Python 3 is currently a bad choice for long-term 
investments, since the ecosystem is not yet properly developed, and 
libraries are still fighting with their API decisions for Python 3."""

While it may be as such for you, I think it is incorrect for the rest.
Moreover, it is harmful for the python 3 adoption, to put such documents
on python.org.

The python ecosystem is not just limited to WSGI apps, Django and Flask.
Yes, we don't have all the packages on pypi support python 3, but many
of those are portable within 10 minutes to couple of hours of work (and
I did many of such ports for our internal systems.)  And many of the
essential packages do exist for python 3, like numpy, zeromq etc.

I know several sturt-ups, including mine that develop huge commercial
applications entirely on python 3.

Thanks,
-Yury

On 2012-02-27, at 5:38 PM, Armin Ronacher wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 2/27/12 10:18 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>> I would like to know if you think that this one change is enough to do 
>> agile development and testing, etc, or whether, as Chris McDonough 
>> hopes, this is just the first of a series of proposals you have planned.
> Indeed I have three other PEPs in the work.  The reintroduction of
> "except (((ExceptionType),),)", the "<>" comparision operator and the
> removal of "nonlocal", the latter to make Python 2.x developers feel
> better about themselves. :-)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Armin
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