[Python-Dev] PEP 414

Yury Selivanov yselivanov at gmail.com
Thu Mar 1 23:38:00 CET 2012


Hi Armin,

Sorry if I sounded like 'attacking' you.  I certainly had no such
intention, as I believe nobody on this list.

But if you'd just stuck to the point, without touching very 
controversial  topics of what version of python is a good choice 
and what is a bad, with full review of all porting scenarios with 
well-thought set of benchmarks, nobody would ever call your PEP 
"polemic".

Thanks,
-
Yury

On 2012-03-01, at 4:12 PM, Armin Ronacher wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 2/29/12 12:30 PM, Yury Selivanov wrote:
>> I see you've (or somebody) changed:
> Yes, I reworded that.
> 
>> Could you just remove the statement completely?
> I will let Nick handle the PEP wording.
> 
>> I don't think that PEPs are the right place to put such polemic 
>> and biased statements.
> Why call it polemic?  If you want to use ubuntu LTS you're forcing
> yourself to stick to a particular Python version for a longer time.
> Which means you don't want to have to adjust your code.  Which again
> means that you're better of with the Python 2.x ecosystem which is
> proven, does not change nearly as quickly as the Python 3 one
> (hopefully) so if you have the choice between those two you would chose
> 2.x over 3.x.  That's what this sentence is supposed to say.  That's not
> polemic, that's just a fact.
> 
>> Nobody asked you to express your *personal* feelings and thoughts
>> about applicability or state of python3 in the PEP.
> That is not a personal-feeling-PEP.  If people would be 100% happy with
> Python 3 we would not have these discussions, would we.
> 
> Why is it that I'm getting "attacked" on this mailinglist for writing
> this PEP, or the wording etc.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Armin
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