[Python-Dev] Handling support for newer OS features at run time
Gregory P. Smith
greg at krypto.org
Wed Nov 28 06:37:00 CET 2012
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Trent Nelson <trent at snakebite.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:09:12PM -0800, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > Am 27.11.2012 23:49, schrieb Trent Nelson:
> > > I don't think we've currently got the ability to do this, right?
> > > Is there a precedent set anywhere else? I suspect it's not as
> > > much of an issue on *NIX platforms as you'll typically compile
> > > from source. Windows, not so much.
> > >
> > > Thoughts? A single binary that dynamically loads applicable
> > > modules seems cleaner but will obviously take more work. Other
> > > approach would be to start distributing multiple versions of
> > > Python based on the underlying Windows version. Not the nicest
> > > approach.
> >
> > Usually I have to build a python package on a build daemon running the
> > kernel of the latest stable (or latest stable long term support)
> > release. Thus if a configure test checks the current kernel, then you
> > may get an unexpected answer and a missing feature. It is somehow
> > different that I already build different binaries (per release), but
> > the hard-coding of kernel features during configure time looks like
> > the same issue. Currently working around it by patching configure to
> > remove the test and hard-code it for a particular build. Another
> > solution maybe would to have something like --enable-kernel=<version>
> > (as found in glibc), and hope that you can deduce the features from
> > the kernel version.
>
> Hmmm. How often do Linux kernel versions expose new features that
> we can make use of in Python? i.e. do you run into this problem
> often? Can you cite some recent examples?
>
Here's an example of using the pipe2() system call. The code is only
compiled in if the C library supports it. If the C library supports it, the
system call can still return an error because the running kernel doesn't
support it (ENOSYS). In that case it falls back to the legacy code:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/618ea5612e83/Modules/_posixsubprocess.c#l738
-gps
>
> I'm not sure how much could be shared between Windows and Linux with
> what you've just described. With Windows, specifically with regards
> to providing dynamic select.poll() support, I was thinking of having
> multiple modules:
>
> Python33\
> DLLs\
> select.pyd
> select_win6.pyd
> select_win7.pyd
> select_win8.pyd
>
> And Python would automatically import the appropriate one. I don't
> think this would be that useful on Linux -- as you say, the decision
> is typically made at ./configure time.
>
> Trent.
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