[Python-Dev] BDFL delegation for PEP 426 (PyPI metadata 1.3)

[Daniel Holth]

The neat thing about wheel is that you can install them without having the
software used to build them. So we might try to provide a very simple wheel
installer script with Python that did not even depend on DistUtils. You
would be able to install pip etc with that tool. There is no need to put
wheel directly into DistUtils.
On Feb 3, 2013 7:54 AM, "Antoine Pitrou" <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:34:36 +0000
> Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So it's perfectly possible to use wheels right now, without the pip
> > integration. But the pip developers don't want to integrate the wheel
> > format just because it exists - they want the assurance that it's an
> > accepted format supported by PEPs, hence the interest in getting the 3
> > wheel PEPs (of which the metadata PEP is the first) accepted.
>
> But it's an "accepted format" by whom? If we accept the PEP but refuse
> to integrate support in the stdlib, it doesn't make much sense.
>
> I vote for removing the "distutils is frozen" principle. It was already
> destructive enough when packaging was still alive - bug fixes were
> actively turned down for the dubious reason that fixing bugs would
> break compatibility. Its rationale has become completely obsolete now
> that packaging has failed.
>
> Regards
>
> Antoine.
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