[Python-Dev] PEP 433: Choose the default value of the new cloexec parameter

[Ralf Schmitt]

"R. David Murray" <rdmurray at bitdance.com> writes:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:56:06 +0100, Ralf Schmitt <ralf at systemexit.de> wrote:
>> "R. David Murray" <rdmurray at bitdance.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:42:59 +0100, Ralf Schmitt <ralf at systemexit.de> wrote:
>> >> Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > It's like calling socket.settimeout(0.1) and then complaining that
>> >> > urllib.urlopen() raises exceptions
>> >> 
>> >> but that's not what's happening. you'll see urllib.urlopen raising
>> >> exceptions and only afterwards realize that you called into some third
>> >> party library code that decided to change the timeout.
>> >
>> > What is stopping some some third party library code from calling
>> > socket.settimeout(0.1)?
>> 
>> Nothing. That's the point. You just wonder why urlopen fails when the
>> global timeout has been changed by that third party library.
>
> Oh, you were agreeing with Guido?  I guess I misunderstood.

no. I think it's rather surprising if your code depends on some global
variable that might change by calling into some third party code.