[Python-Dev] IDLE in the stdlib

[Georg Brandl]

Am 22.03.2013 10:48, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
> Le Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:38:41 +0100,
> Georg Brandl <g.brandl at gmx.net> a écrit :
> 
>> Am 21.03.2013 19:13, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
>> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:57:54 -0700
>> > Raymond Hettinger <raymond.hettinger at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > Right.  Ultimately, I think IDLE should be a separate project
>> >> > entirely, but I guess there's push back against that too.
>> >> 
>> >> The most important feature of IDLE is that it ships with the
>> >> standard library. Everyone who clicks on the Windows MSI on the
>> >> python.org webpage automatically has IDLE.   That is why I
>> >> frequently teach Python with IDLE.
>> >> 
>> >> If this thread results in IDLE being ripped out of the standard
>> >> distribution, then I would likely never use it again.
>> > 
>> > Which says a lot about its usefulness, if the only reason you use
>> > it is that it's bundled with the standard distribution.
>> 
>> Just like a lot of the stdlib, it *gets* a lot of usefulness from
>> being a battery.  But just because there are better/more
>> comprehensive/prettier replacements out there is not reason enough to
>> remove standard libraries.
> 
> That's a good point. I guess it's difficult for me to think of IDLE as
> an actual library.

You're right, "library" is not a good term, but "battery" certainly is.

Georg